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  Witnesses vying for "who has the biggest trials to cope with"

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. experiences

  it struck me that witnesses have mastered the art of revelling in "trials and problems" that require "enduring".

  of course, the persecution complex, and the paranoia about these "wicked last days" no doubt contributes to this.. if one witness has some health issue, or if another has a family drama, they seem to revel in sharing these stories amongst their witness friends...almost in an attempt to elicit sympathy.. has anyone else noticed this?.

  most normal people though outside of the org, simply recognise that life has its ups and downs, and need to be dealt with..

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  In witnessworld everything is a competition even misery.

  I figure it's because the GB rewards self-made martyrs by using their example in yearbooks, awake articles, convention "experiences" etc.

  The only attention to be had is being a really really "blessed" career witness or by being really really "persecuted" and "tested" and living to tell the tale.

  And, if you can't be really really actually persecuted you just make up some storm in a teacup bs story about how your scarewy disfellowshipped relative tried to speak to you but you mangaed to stay strong and shun the shit out of that bitch. Then you get interviewd at the assembly and you win the award that year for most persecuted.
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  Those who DO NOT get a resurrection?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so we know that by jw logic, the idea is that everyone who dies is acquitted of their sin and will get a resurrection in the "new world".

  however, those directly destroyed by god, or at his command will not.

  (for example, those destroyed in the flood.

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  NO RESURRECTION FOR YOU!!!

  
  
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  The Unique Power, Control and Status of the GB Members

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  something to reflect upon is the real unregulated, power and control the gb members have.. such as they themselves cant be judged for their practice as being true christians according to bible scripture.. an example of that power and control,.... j rutherford the once head leader of the wts.

  lived with a female assistant when he was separated from his wife ???

  she declared that she was very much his wife in court under oath .

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  Interesting thread with great points.

  This sort of mental indoctrination can happen in a similar way with political groups and social cause groups also.

  Groupthink is a bitch.
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  Watchtower Ironically Warns It's Memeber About "Propaganda" - Watchtower July 2017

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-july-2017/propaganda-winning-battle-for-your-mind/.

  in what is just the height of irony, watchtower warns us about propaganda, and accepting everything we hear/read.

  yes, we should ignore those that try to stop us thinking critically as this watchtower article will now teach us.

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  I read stuff like this and know WT knows exacly what its doing.
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  Pedophile on The Governing Body

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the bottom line there is zero tolerance for any homosexual activity in jehovah’s holy organization.

  so all known gays had been kicked out and disfellowshipped before i got to bethel and gays got kicked and disfellowshipped and disgraced when i was there.

  sorry, i guess i meant most homosexuals were kicked out in disgrace.

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  Would not surprise me at all, we should not be naive about these things. WT is not the immaculate org it makes out to be. Think about it naysayers. The likelyhood of sexual predators being present in closed religious orders is high across the board why would WT be any different?

  WT and its people are not immune to the statistics that are common in society in general, that's just another lie perpetuated by WT.

  "JWs do not have the same problems as other religions", JWs are the cleanest people on earth",

  "Never in Jehovahs organiation!" All typical JW naive/delusional responses.

  The question isn't would JWborg have sexual predators at bethel? The question is which ones are or have been the sexual predators at bethel?
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  August 31, 2017 BOE Re: Procedure for Handling Certain Cases of Wrongdoing

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  august 31, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: procedure for handling certain cases of wrongdoing.

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  You seem to know an awful lot about bethel procedure JD - well aren't you special.
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  The Watchtower's Medical Expert

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a new article by s. sparrow, published today at ajwrb, investigates dr. joachim boldt, one of the watchtower's “bloodless medicine” experts.

  a notorious “medical pretender” who has exposed jw's to additional needless risk.

  watchtower continues to cite this source, and fails to expose him as a fraud.

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  Lives will continue to be at risk for as long as WT parades spiritual twoddle as medical advice.

  Black Box Warning for WT: This phoney baloney medical advice is brought to you by a corrupt religious organization.
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  X/LDS vs X/JW!!!Who is more twisted and bitter.

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since leaving the jws i have become fascinated by the lds church, because of the similarities both organisations have.

  in reading x-mo forums i get the impression that they tend to be not as bitter and as twisted as xjw.

  this is surprising as i think the lds is a bigger con than the jws.

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  I think WT and ChuckyT and JudgeR are more of a con because WT has always sanitized and whitewashed their characters and their history. So much so that they will spread deliberately confusing, misleading propoganda about the two complete with legendary anecdotes to members and to others. It's not beneath WT to feed "wordly" historians or jounalists the same whitewashed "official" versions of the "truth" to give their fabricated past credibility.

  Ex LDS at least know, probably not all but much of the the dirt on the of their history and founders. JWs do not. They only ever have the WT "official" versions of events.

  WT has a very effective disinformation program, I'll give them that!

  WT's versions of how, who, where, and what are scant, sketchy and confusing - for a reason!

  With so much of WT's history smelling like bullshit it's hard not to be angry!
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  When JWs Pray for Houston

  by NJ501 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i hear prayers given by brothers why do they only pray for other jws not all people??

  i remember hearing a comment from my mother saying 4000 jws are affected by this...and i'm thinking yes that is sad but what about the tens of thousands other people affected?

  too me it just doesn't seem right to just pray for jws but to pray for all victims.

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  Why pray for people who don't exist in Jehovah's eyes because they "do not know him."

  To be worthy of mention in a JW prayer you need to at least be interested in becoming a jw, on the road to baptism or an active and regular (meeting attender not bowel movements) baptized JW.
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  Governing Body Members Autographing Bibles

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have an online ex jw friend who pointed out to me that she stumbled upon a may 15, 1999 watchtower that had pictures of governing body members autographing bibles for people.

  i have no bound volumes or cd rom copies anymore so i can verify.

  two things came to mind, if this is true:.

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  Lamest book signing ever!