Well this was a bit of welcome comic relief lol.
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Using history as a means to pinpoint possible future events.
by HealthySkeptic inthe purpose of this thread is to share some history with the community.
i am an active jw.
the reason i picked this forum is due to the openness and ease with which information can be accessed.
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Who has a harder time leaving JW's - Born Ins or those who converted?
by HeyLittleGirl inmy freind (who is also out) and i were talking about this the other night.
i was a born-in, 3rd generation jw and she converted when she was in her late 20's.. when she left, she said that she knew the world wasn't as bad as she was told as a jw, so she knew she would be fine.
also, she still had lots of "worldly" family who welcomed her back with open arms.. it was harder for me - i had nobody in the "world", no family or freinds.
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Using history as a means to pinpoint possible future events.
by HealthySkeptic inthe purpose of this thread is to share some history with the community.
i am an active jw.
the reason i picked this forum is due to the openness and ease with which information can be accessed.
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Welcome HS.
You said you wanted to share this info but you didn't say why you wanted to share, or, maybe you're getting to that?
Ooh, it's in the title "pinpoint future events." Gotcha.
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Were You Ever SHOCKED That Someone Got Appointed As An Elder?
by minimus ini remember some men getting appointed and wondering what the hell were they thinking???.
likewise when i came to someone being appointed a presiding overeer or whatever they are called now!
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Diogen's anecdote reminded me of a elder brother whose anxiety was so severe he couldn't talk socially to anybody, he would give parts and public talks but don't ever say hello to him.
Another ekder brother who had bipolar and he would be manic and paranoid one meeting and sat in the back room in the dark the next.
Now, I don't have a problem with people in postions of authority who also suffer with mental health issues that's not my point my point is these men sat in judgement of others made decisions that affected other peoples lives and their mental health conditions definitely affected how that judgement was made, depending on what mood they were in that day.
Interesting to note these men were appointed after their diagnosis. Real scratch the head moment at those announcements I can tell you.
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January 2018 Study Watchtower - if only J.W.'s knew the truth!
by The Fall Guy inpage 19, paragraph 12: "with prayerful consideration, the governing body strives to be faithful and discreet with regard to how the organization’s funds are used.".
yeah, i "prayed" too - that more and more j.w.
's would discover that millions of dollars of their hard-earned cash were being misused to shut the mouths of j.w.
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A donation to the "worldwide work" is pretty general amd vague when you think about it, could mean anything.
Could mean the worldwide keeping WT's ass afloat work. At the end of the day how much does anyone know what specifically happens to their charity dollars.
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Were You Ever SHOCKED That Someone Got Appointed As An Elder?
by minimus ini remember some men getting appointed and wondering what the hell were they thinking???.
likewise when i came to someone being appointed a presiding overeer or whatever they are called now!
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Yes and no.
Yes I was shocked when some "unspiritual" brother was chosen by the obviously blind holy spirit.
No I wasn't shocked because the main criteria for appointment appeared to be "do we like him" and "who are they related to."
Nepotism and favouritism was rife in every cong I was ever in.
I would also add "is he a successful business man or professional" to that list of criteria because that seemed to impress most elders also.
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AGM - Are they now teaching predestination?
by Doubting Bro inanother agm thought.
in tight pants tony's part, he mentioned several times that jehovah draws those he chooses and only those rightly disposed would come in.
and individuals that liked the literature but made no progress towards becoming jw were a "waste of time".. was he setting the stage for them introducing the thought of predestination?
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They talk out of their big fat culty ass and will say whatever suits their current agenda.
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Who has a harder time leaving JW's - Born Ins or those who converted?
by HeyLittleGirl inmy freind (who is also out) and i were talking about this the other night.
i was a born-in, 3rd generation jw and she converted when she was in her late 20's.. when she left, she said that she knew the world wasn't as bad as she was told as a jw, so she knew she would be fine.
also, she still had lots of "worldly" family who welcomed her back with open arms.. it was harder for me - i had nobody in the "world", no family or freinds.
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Yes, I tend to agree that if you had some memory of normal reverting to it is not as hard.
But, I think generally speaking those that convert can feel more betrayed especially if they gave up worldly families and jobs and houses and romantic relationships and hobbies for the sake of the borg.
After burning that many bridges is can be difficult to reesestablish.
At the end of the day I don't think anyone leaving has the monopoly on suffering, it's not a competition after all.
Those that suffered abuse that they got no justice for and were revictimized by the congregation I feel for the most.
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What is the Psychological agenda of the Watchtower Corporation enacted through its publications ?
by Finkelstein inbasically its to get people to believe in the things they say and proclaim.
once people are in a believable mental state and acceptance, then the wts can control people's thoughts, emotions and actions through acts of repetitive indoctrination.. this all comes together by instilling the notion that their interpretation of the bible is the correct and accurate one.
add in the notion of following us you'll be more righteous in the eyes of god , thereby offering a better chance of survival at the soon to come armageddon.. everything connects in a cohesive self supporting way and subconsciously effects the thoughts and social behavior of all those being indoctrinated.. constantly pointing out the many evils of the outside secular world or other religions as "false" but how one can gain true happiness when inside this organization is their way to sustain devoted members.
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The power and control that WT exerts on the members is inexcusable, there is nothing to justify this level of interference to adherence over the personal lives of believers. Apart from creating a captive audience (customer base) for life, along with the lives of successive generations, I cannot think of a single reason that any group could justify this level of psychological manipulation and control over its members.
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Can Today's JW Logically Explain Their Beliefs?
by minimus inwhen i was a jw, i relished explaining my beliefs and why we had the truth!
lol.
todays witness has no clue , in my opinion..
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Cults can't afford for any of their people to go off script.
The script is real easy to remember now : "Please visit out website."