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  Jwsurvey and Trey Bundy

  by DATA-DOG in

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  2. scandals

  good evening, or morning, whatever the case may be.. just a couple of points about the jw monthly broadcast, and the "two witness" rule.

  i'm tired, so i'm going to be brief.. 1) i had a nice conversation with trey bundy about the flaws in the wt's "logic" concerning their pet scripture in deuteronomy.

  in short, their rnwt ( the most accurate translation of all time, because the fds were involved...) says that no one person can be convicted on the testimony of one witness.

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  Their slavish adherence to selected parts of OT law when it suits them is infuriating.

  They truly "strain the gnat and gulp the camel."

  I agree their twisted reasonings that ruin lives should be shouted form every available rooftop.
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  ExJW responsible for calling the police at the Warwick protest, NOT Watchtower

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  according to the great apostate, who spent time with police officers at the protest, they informed him that it was not watchtower who called the police in but another exjw who briefly attended the protest and subsequently disapproved of the protesters methods...claiming they were being "violent".. i find this very difficult to understand.

  anyone who saw the bravery of the women who stood up in the kingdom hall and told the story of their abuse and rape could not fail to feel compassion and offer their support.. i know there are posters on this forum who disagree with me.they worry that such protests play into watchtowers "persecution" complex, and naturally i understand their position.. but really, how long do we have to fear their power over their members, and through their members, us.. many jw's simply do not know the extent of the paedophile problem,.they do not know about malawi, the un, the bloodless surgery guinea pig deaths ( thank you orphan crow), the suicides....i simply don't believe that protests don't work....if there are enough of them, and they are organized, and most of all if we are united...we shall make a difference, and that difference may be your loved one.. https://youtu.be/ffhr9onbdrk.

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  Yeah Listener is right this guy is that ex Bible Student Lloyd interviewed on his YT channel.

  What has any of this got to do with him except maybe he thinks he's being a flying monkey for Lloyd.
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  Can some one please explain Deuteronomy 23:12-13

  by Jayk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at a bible study when i was younger i read this scripture out loud and totally did with a straight face realising what they were talking about halfway through it.

  i think i start reading in verse 12 "when evening falls, he should wash with water, and then he may return to the camp at sunset.+ 12 a private place* should be designated for use outside the camp, and there is where you should go.

  13 a peg should be part of your equipment.

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  Basically what nowhat said.
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  Biblical incidents that bothered me.

  by EverApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.

  these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.

  perhaps this led to my awakening.

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  No, but FM seems to think he has God's protection.
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  Can some one please explain Deuteronomy 23:12-13

  by Jayk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at a bible study when i was younger i read this scripture out loud and totally did with a straight face realising what they were talking about halfway through it.

  i think i start reading in verse 12 "when evening falls, he should wash with water, and then he may return to the camp at sunset.+ 12 a private place* should be designated for use outside the camp, and there is where you should go.

  13 a peg should be part of your equipment.

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  WT liked to use this as evidence that his people had superior/divine knowledge of things like sanitation, hygiene etc long before medical science caught up. LOL.
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  Biblical incidents that bothered me.

  by EverApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.

  these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.

  perhaps this led to my awakening.

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  Is a person still under God's protection if that person willfully visits an "apostate" website when God has told them in the bible stop touching "the unclean thing" for eg?
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  "we would never deliberately distort a quotation"

  by ttdtt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  omg my head exploded!in this months broadcast - splian goes off on how much care the wt in making sure its facts are correct, and how they make sure their quotes are not taking from people who have a bad reputation or have an agenda.

  and that the make sure its always in context!.

  they are such liars!.

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  "We would never (insert weasel word here) deliberately distort a quotation..."

  This statement alone is lying distortion.
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  Can some one please explain Deuteronomy 23:12-13

  by Jayk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at a bible study when i was younger i read this scripture out loud and totally did with a straight face realising what they were talking about halfway through it.

  i think i start reading in verse 12 "when evening falls, he should wash with water, and then he may return to the camp at sunset.+ 12 a private place* should be designated for use outside the camp, and there is where you should go.

  13 a peg should be part of your equipment.

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  I'm not sure what there is to explain?
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  ...and so the shunning begins

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am now officially 'inactive' so am no longer chased by an elder a for a report.

  the congregation i belonged to never had much time for me anyway, i said once i could drop down dead in the k.hall and no one would notice.

  so i never expected anyone to be particularly bothered that i wasn't there and they aren't.

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  sparrowdown

  Yes, unfortunately freedom from this cult comes at a price.

  I see it like this people can only give you what they have to give and people under WT's "spell" just don't have it. They don't know the real meaning of friendship, love, kindness, compassion because WT has redefined those things for them to mean something unatural.
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  Could the Watchtower lose tax exemption in US?

  by Outahere in

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  2. friends

  looks like trump wants to take out the scientologists.. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-scientology-tax-exemption_us_5a04dd35e4b05673aa584cab?vpo .

  as a cult, could the watchtower be close behind?.

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  sparrowdown

  A great idea and it would be nice but...well... let me see...is there a uuuuuuge wall yet?

  Let's hope so anyway - bout the tax thing that is.