Chronically emotionally abused people will not see the abuse and identify with the abuser and defend them. JWs are lulled into a false sense of security because WT uses words of "love" while being cold, demanding and controlling. The mind has trouble processing that kind of contradiction and will shut down.
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Wow , it’s all so very clear -
by CovertsadJW inthe late great christopher hitchens states that religion is poison and i believe that with my soul.
we are “ born sick and commanded to be well.” under threat of death- both of my parents were abused both physically and emotionally, my wife was what it sounds like verbally abused - the strange part is they don’t see that they are attached to a very abusive religion.
thoughts ?
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How do you deal with "toppers"? [one upmanship]
by compound complex inwhen in conversion, you sometimes get carried away and the talk becomes all about you.. then, you remember you're in a conversation, say you're sorry, and allow the other person to talk.
she goes on about what's happening in her life, you listen and ask some questions.
she tells you more and then shifts the dialogue back to you.
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It's funny you mention the elderly CoCo it reminds me of a quote from nineteen eighty-four when "Winston" is trying to have a conversation with an old man and becomes frustrated with the man's inability to provide any useful info.
" The old man's memory was nothing but a rubbish heap of details. One could question him all day without getting any real information."
"Winston" goes on to note of the people in general:
"They remember a million useless things, a quarrel with a workmate, a hunt for lost bicycle pump, the expression on a long-dead sisters face, the swirls of dust on a windy morning seventy years ago: but all relevant facts were outside the range of their vision. They were like the ant, which can see small objects but not large ones." End quote.
I call it "big picture" blindness.
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Snake In My Fridge
by finallysomepride ini just now went to get meat from my fridge to cook, took the meat out & shut the door as i shut the door i thought i saw a piece of rope in the six pack i had just opened & had removed 2 cans, already drunk 1.. open the door again & there i saw what i thought was a piece of rope, but i look a bit closer ...... shit it's a friggin snake, bugger i had only just taken two cans out wtf.. .
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sparrowdown
Aw he was probly hot the poor little guy.
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And now for something you might be able to hear without repulsion
by TerryWalstrom ini won't give a long preamble other than to say this.
listen and see how you respond.
and now i'm passing it along to get your feedback.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28i3lwxw5xs.
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Very interesting info Terry thanks. I see the Cathy Newman interview style as a symptom rather than the disease. She's "slogan chanter" shallow understanding of the issues and just regurgitates popular "slogans" as a form of denouncement to humiliate. And anyone with a more balanced considered viewpoint is the enemy. Objectivity is non existent in the world of the slogan chanter.
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How do you deal with "toppers"? [one upmanship]
by compound complex inwhen in conversion, you sometimes get carried away and the talk becomes all about you.. then, you remember you're in a conversation, say you're sorry, and allow the other person to talk.
she goes on about what's happening in her life, you listen and ask some questions.
she tells you more and then shifts the dialogue back to you.
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sparrowdown
It depends how well you know the other person. Is the one-sidedness actually just social awkwardness because of unfamiliarity and not wanting to appear too "forward"? Or is it the person's baseline way of speaking? If after getting to know someone and finding out it is their baseline I tend to limit association with them as it's too draining, but I will try to let the person know what they're doing first as there could be a chance it's just serial thoughtlessness on their part. If they "get it" great if they don't I will just let nature take it's course as people who are like this usually don't like having their conversation style pointed out to them and the relationship dries up all on it's own.
I do think the internet has changed and is changing the way people communicate online and in person. I also found most if not all JWs are like this, you could not have a to and fro conversation with them. The conversation style of JWs was to talk about or talk at but not talk to. While they talked about other people behind their backs they somehow considered it rude to talk face to face with the person about the very things that they talked behind their backs about even if the person themselves brought it up. It was weird. I'm still trying to figure out how to communicate after leaving the borg.
Why were you asking CoCo are you just curious or is it work related?
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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This video proves either the GB are totally nucking futs or their teachings turn people into stupid, crazed closet sex addicts with zero self-control that need to be counselled on how to sleep correctly to avoid erections.
I think the former.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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Hell ! Good point ttdtt.
If the innocent pillows are copping a pounding in the bedrooms at bethel what the hell is going on in the bakery with all those warm pies and buns?
What other inanimate objects are being abused and sexually harrassed at bethel?
#pillowmetoo.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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sparrowdown
Is it breeding act or breading act?
One is sexual intercourse the other is covering something in flour then egg then breadcrumbs for frying.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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WT should offer this excellent resource "training" video to other institutions to show their newbies.
I'm sure the police cadets, the military, uni students and many others would just love being spoken down to like they're retarded animals with a sex addiction that can't be left alone for a half a second without humping something. Nooooo that approach isn't insulting at all.
Keep up the good work WT your five minutes of fame could come yet - as a laughing stock.