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  TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS "Handling Cases of Drug Abuse" September 1, 2018

  by Not_Culty in

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  2. beliefs

  https://jwglossary.blogspot.com/2018/09/to-all-bodies-of-elders-handling-cases.html.

  to all bodies of elders "handling cases of drug abuse".

  september 1, 2018. to all bodies of elders re: handling cases of drug abusedear brothers: as noted below, the procedure for handling the misuse of marijuana and the abuse of medi- cal, illicit, or addictive drugs has been adjusted to harmonize with the procedure for handling the misuse of tobacco.

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  Elders handling cases of drug abuse....hmmm what could go wrong...
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  JW org collapses

  by I Faded Twice in

  1. social
  2. humour

  ok so this is a topic i've pondered and go back and forth on.. i can easily see a point where lawsuits cause massive deficits in the organization.

  honestly i feel like we are seeing the tip of the iceberg in regards to lawsuits on child abuse.

  to me it looks like the property sell offs are to be able to get ready for this.

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  I don't trust their numbers either, it is possible we are not getting the entire picture even with published figures.

  Even so so KH sell offs, branch closures, congregation consolidations, lay offs of special pioneers and bethelites, reduction in printed material and the subsequent weaning of publishers off print and onto an online spiritual feeding program...

  Yeah something is afoot that part is evident.

  Sorry to sound all portentious but, the real question is how do we interpret the signs when we only have partial knowledge. Lol.

  Is it collapse or is it some kind of planned obsolescence of an outdated model.

  Are they going bankrupt or merely transitioning into ...into...what?

  Are they downing or are they waving?

  Only time will tell.
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  You're in the Army Now: Jehovah's Witnesses No Longer Exempt From Finnish Draft

  by Tahoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://sputniknews.com/europe/201809211068220658-finland-jehovah-witnesses-army/.

  the finnish government has ruled that the current law allowing jehovah's witnesses to avoid military service, in place for several decades, is discriminatory and contradicts the constitution.. .

  in the future, finnish jehovah's witnesses* will be obliged to either serve in the nation's military or perform civil service on the same terms as everyone else, the government ruled, submitting a corresponding proposal to parliament, national broadcaster yle reported.. according to the 1987 law, jehovah's witnesses were not only freed from the military draft, they were freed of any obligation to perform community service as a pacifist alternative, a common option among other young people in finland.

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  They disagree with all forms of war and killing but child abusers abusing, shunning, breaking up families, suicides and encouraging death by refusal of blood transfusion and who can forget the great slaughter of armageddon they're just fine with.
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  First year with baby!

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i wanted to share a few recent pics of izabella with everyone.

  this week marks her one year since her coming home from nicu.

  she has been growing and changing so much these last few months in particular.

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  What a precious baby.

  Best life ever!
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  I yelled at dubs today ( again )

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i roll up to the job site and looky there, two uber pioneer dubs dragging themselves down the sidewalk.

  both ladies are in there early 60's and born in.. my heart started pumping, but i had to act.i was directly across the street from them.

  i walked right to the sidewalk and said in a very loud, but not mean voice: "you can't teach overlapping generations from the bible!!

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  I am in two minds on this issue.

  I know in their indoctrinated state their minds are impenetrable and anything you do or say they will use against you as proof of their beliefs.

  But, I also believe this so-called "persecution complex" response is just another way of shutting down discussion and anyone that dares to disagree with them. It's like "play by my rules - or else I'll scream persecution."

  When in reality, the truth is, anyone who publicly peddles a belief system by way of unsolicited home visits needs to be questioned and challenged hard! Everytime - even if it makes them squirm and feel uncomfortable.
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  How Long Before They Introduce Tithing?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.

  i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.

  i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.

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  He's evading the questions he's not just a troll he's the new 'Richard Oliver."
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  How Long Before They Introduce Tithing?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.

  i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.

  i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.

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  Like talking to a troll.
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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  Control a person's perception of reality and you control them.
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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  I do not use the words indoctrination and forced interchangeably - ever. I am NOT one of those people.

  JWs are heavily infuenced by their years of indoctrination and their decisions reflect that.

  If indoctrination in JW beliefs is not present in a person's life does that person just wake up one day and think I would love to make bethel a career? Do non JWs apply to go to bethel? No they do not.

  BUT, that does not mean in any way shape or form that someone forced them to apply to go to bethel.

  Bethelites are not forced to apply for bethel I do not know how many ways I can say it.
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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  I'm not saying JWs do not have a choice they do they just choose not to use it because they fail to question their indoctrination.

  I have never ever said adult JWs are forced to join because they are not. Any person that turns 18 yrs of age is legally and intellectually responsible for their own decisions. JW children are conditioned to believe they are not. They are lied to by parents who were lied to but that does NOT absolve them of their responsibility or consequences of decisions they make as an adult.