Posts by sparrowdown

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PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).

but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.

yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......

sparrowdown

Well said stirred.

Mmm.... "integrity" now that's a flexible concept for JWs.

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HAS ANYONE SEEN.......

by DATA-DOG in

a super bat-shit crazy invitation to pioneer in august??

i stumbled upon something the other day, but i have been hesitant to post it.

i am afraid that it could be a local thing and thereby traced back to me.

sparrowdown

Every pioneer month is the pioneer month to end all pioneer months.

Because if the end of the world as we know is coming, the most important thing is being able to brag later about pioneering.

Real story you can tell the grandkids

"Remember the year the world ended kiddies? well grampa/nana and I put 30/50 hours in that month"

"really grampa? did you get to see the people that didn't pioneer destoyed?"

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The secretive complicity of many

by prologos in

jw
friends

from among the many thousands of j w meetings this week:.

what would have been the purpose to eliminate the 'anouncement' portion at the beginning of the service meeting some time ago?.

obfuscation.. as reported from last night*:.

sparrowdown

Even after the letter was read about no more announcements our COBE still made announcements about funerals and people in hospital.

Actually the announcements about people in hospital were to tell people to

"stop visiting at all hours of the day and night the hospital and the sick person have requested no more visitors"

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Said from the platform: "You are not surviving Armaggedon if you are spiritually weak"

by Daniel1555 in

today i was at the meeting (i go there about once a month now).

in the service meeting they had a part where they interviewed the secretary of the congregation.. so one question was: "why are the service reports so important?".

our secretary explained that the reports are important, because the elders can see, who is spiritually weak.

sparrowdown

This type of emotional blackmail only works if your a willing participant.

If they said "if you are spirirtually weak you are going to hell" would that make it any clearer that they are lying.

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PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).

but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.

yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......

sparrowdown

0oooh this all sounds like so much fun you have inspired me to go back and pioneer for august.

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Recording of Telephone Call made to London Bethel Alarming!

by outinthemeadows in

i subscribed to this youtube.com channel a year ago.

this was updated this morning.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4_vsgoawes.

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sparrowdown

That is one of the biggest screw-overs the borg has accomplished over it's flock.

They lead you to believe that they actually give a rat's, when in reality you are just a publisher record card, a number, nothing more.

The sooner people figure that out the better off they will be.

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Said from the platform: "You are not surviving Armaggedon if you are spiritually weak"

by Daniel1555 in

today i was at the meeting (i go there about once a month now).

in the service meeting they had a part where they interviewed the secretary of the congregation.. so one question was: "why are the service reports so important?".

our secretary explained that the reports are important, because the elders can see, who is spiritually weak.

sparrowdown

The things they will say, just so they can scare people into doing their dirty work for them-for free.

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PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).

but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.

yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......