Posts by sparrowdown

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"Apostates " how honest are we?

by closed in

as i mentioned in another post i used to serve as an elder for 2 decades.

i was involved in a number of jc.

some i dealt with are good friends now.

sparrowdown

I fail to see your point

Cognac was right - nunya business to begin with.

What these people decided to relate concerning their own experience at their own JC again - nunya business.

People can witness the same event and remember things differently. Happens all the time.

Have you been on the other side of a JC ? Fear can play a factor in how you remember things.

I could go on, but my point is that there seems to be so much here you have failed to consider.

I am more honest with myself now than I ever was as a myopic Jw.

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Half of the cong was dancing last night

by StarTrekAngel in

so went to the meeting last night.

i had not been to one since before the holiday break (3 weeks ago).

besides, it was our first meeting in the new format.

sparrowdown

Music can be a powerful tool in the indoctrination sessions.

Expect any loved ones that attend the meetings to go into cult hyperdrive over this.

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How J.W.'s Are Programmed to React to "Inconvenient Truths"

by The Searcher in

been there, seen the movie, bought the t-shirt - done all three!

still cringe at how i viewed the corporation's teachings as sacrosanct.

bite the bullet lurkers - treat your gangrenous thinking and begin your recovery.

sparrowdown

Unfortunately most don't wake up and smell the cult until they are mauled by the borg personally in some way.

I saw things happen to others over years and all the cult responses kicked in. But, when "what goes around came around" (as the saying goes) did I start to see things from the perspective of the ones that had been hurt, disfellowshipped, marginalized and demonized.

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Half of the cong was dancing last night

by StarTrekAngel in

so went to the meeting last night.

i had not been to one since before the holiday break (3 weeks ago).

besides, it was our first meeting in the new format.

sparrowdown

Get ready everyone, all new, all singing, all dancing, happy-clappy JWs coming soon to a KH near you.

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Slightly different approach - JW my tradition

by closed in

hello everybody :) i have been visiting this forum for some time.

i noticed that many can't really free from the past in the org despite many years outside of jw.

i was awaken with a bang.

sparrowdown

There are more ways of showing support for a dangerous mind control group than being an appointed man or contributing funds. Just by placing your bum on the KH seat everytime you attend one of their indoctrination sessions you are counted in their stats. Stats that keep the WT lie going. If you're still engaging in FS you are counted as "active" contributing to their number tally that keeps the lie going.

Of course, it's your life, but personally once I saw the ugly, ugly side to the org I just could not in all good conscience lend support to this group. I felt passive attendance is still support and silence can be interpreted as approval.

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If JWs were to change their name what would they change it to?

by slimboyfat in

was it 1931 when they adopted jehovah's witnesses?

(at the time with lower case w) isn't it about time now they changed name again?

i mean everything else is changing why not the name!

sparrowdown

The Kingdom Cart People

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Elder continues serving as elder after his daughter got disfellowshipped!

by hardtobeme in

this is what is happening in a spanish congregation in our area.

this happened 3 weeks ago.

this brother conducted the school and after the school was over, another elder gave the announcement: "( name of the person) is not longer a jehovah's witness".

sparrowdown

Is it possible this guy has spent all his time being an enforcer for WT rules ie an elder, rather than spending time with his children??

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Demonic art in the watchtower?

by Lost and adrift in

does anybody remember a rumour or maybe it was a truth?

?...something about hidden pictures or symbols in the artwork of the watchtower.

was it one of those urban legends?

sparrowdown

VI - the more scary picture is on the teeshirt - Miley Cyrus. Lol.

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Demonic art in the watchtower?

by Lost and adrift in

does anybody remember a rumour or maybe it was a truth?

?...something about hidden pictures or symbols in the artwork of the watchtower.

was it one of those urban legends?

sparrowdown

Oh yeah, in my opinion, there are some, not all, but some of the artwork pics that are dubious to say the least.

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Umbertoecho here.

by umbertoecho in

hello people.. i'm tired and a bit sick at the moment but i can't let anyone think that this is going to go away.... i am able to tell you a few things in order to prevent any confusion in the minds of those who are thinking that nothing will come of this arc;that nothing will effect the wtbts in america and other places.. i have been there and given my testimony.

helen milroy and her assistants were there along with another group of people who are there to lend assistance if you crack up at any time during or after the hearing.

i did not crack up but can see how this happens.. security is tight and anonymity is sacred to them as they want to protect all who come forward.

sparrowdown

Good job Umber. You have done a good thing.