Posts by sparrowdown

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New Article - Watchtower View of Homosexuality

by jwfacts in

i have thought about writing this article for many years, and the awake!

2014 no.4 was the final straw.

there it states that jehovah's witnesses show no prejudice towards homosexuals, and "they neither mock nor mistreat people whose practices differ from their own.

sparrowdown

Good job, Paul. I like the way you call a spade a spade right from the outset. WT is indeed a disseminator of intolerance, judgement and division. The nicey-nicey "face" they like to portray to the public contains a sly message couched in language that softens their bigoted stance but their stance is very clear cut and that is that homosexuals that do not change their ways will be disfellowshipped and shunned and ultimately destroyed at armageddon.

Their message really is that simple no matter how much they dress it up, slap some corny animation on it and call it "loving."

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Well, they came again. Really this time an Elder.

by rebelfighter in

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so after the 2 special pioneers visited i thought i had given them an earful about the arc and the pedophile problem in their organization surely they would have put me on the do not call list.. oh, no not my luck i get an elder and his lovely little mute wife with infant child in the stroller this morning at 9 am.

don't these people have a job to go to?

it was a car with 3 men & a woman.. we go through the standard do you read the bible yada yada, i tell them i know the routine very familiar with your game.

sparrowdown

If the media had reported even just a teeny-tiny report in an obscure article somewhere in the butt-end of the world that Jehovah's Witnesses Persecuted For Standing up for Freedom of Religion!

Then that news report would be "soooooo true" and used in every Assembly and RC talk for the next ten years.

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45 Minute Bethel Video about Changes (downsizing) at Watchtower

by OnTheWayOut in

i don't see this posted elsewhere, and i don't have the links besides this facebook one.. but here is a 45-minute long bethel talk about the changes at bethel including addressing the hard feelings of people who were given the axe.

basically, everything must change.

we gave remaining bethelites saturday off to do our bidding in "the field" and we give bethelites over 70 an extra day a week off (if you can find any such bethelites).

sparrowdown

Sacrifice pioneering in the field for Bethel service.

Now sacrifice your Bethel service for regular pioneering in the field.

Sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice to the hungry beast Jehovah and his insatiable appetite for sacrifice!

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

sparrowdown

The idea that witnesses accept all non-practicing gays into the loving bosom of the borg is naive and absurd. IMO.

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

sparrowdown

Their teachings lead to self-loathing.

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

sparrowdown

WT's anti messages are usually of the velvet glove kind. Their messages are dots that the audience joins in their own mind. Anyone who is a fan of the horrormovie genre will know how implied threat and menacing music can be more effective in elicting fear than a big scary ghost in full view.

They don't actually come out and say the words you're gonna die horribly if you don't serve Jehovah either but we know by the scriptures used as reference that that is exactly the message. The brain makes the connection even if the conscious mind glosses over it.

People that grew up listening to those "soft" trauma messages can still have nightmares about it as grown adults.

I don't underestimate the cumulative effect these messages have over say a twenty year period from birth to adult hood, they really do get in and cause long term damage to the way people think.

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JW anti-gay children movie viral in Netherlands national media + official reaction of JW spokesman Branch office

by Gorbatchov in

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various dutch (netherlands) media mentioned the anti-gay children movie on jw.org,.

and gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual organizations are shocked, and some gay people.

are reporting the movie to the local police.. the official spokesman of the dutch branch office in emmen declared that the movie is.

sparrowdown

If the message of the video is intended for mainly "internal use" then why doesn't Sophia's button-eye "Coraline" mom tell Sophia not to be judgemental of her classmates artwork, and that her classmates two moms are none of their business.

What will Sophia's classmate think of whatever Sophia tells her? Will she then go home and tell her mommies?What will her mommies think of this story of gay people being like inappropriate illegal "carry-on baggage" that have to be left behind?

This video is another example of WT's simplistic equation of real-world issues. If A happens then apply B and you get the happy outcome of C. The reality is always more complex. The knock-on effect of WT teachings generate grief for all who apply the ridiculous suggestions set out in their propoganda videos.

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RC 2016 Leaks & Releases

by wifibandit in

in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

now, on with the leaks & releases!

first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.

sparrowdown

Ahhhh so that 's what the great tribulation sounds like. Maybe it's the just sound of Trump winning the election? (Joke)

BTW, wow that snooty couple really did it tough by making that sacrifice and moving into that tiny rat-infested hovel didn't they. (Also joke)

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Was Jesus disrespectful to his mother?

by purrpurr in

the famous wedding/ water into wine scene where he basically tells me mother to hop it and that he's nothing to do with her is what i am referring to.. now the wt tries to claim that this is not disrespectful and that jesus says this in a kindly manner which somehow makes it all ok. but then the wt have never been big on respecting women so this probably would make sense to them.. but the fact is that in the ten commandments the jews were commanded to respect their parents, in fact if a child was disrespectful to the parents the parents were to stone the child and... if the parents didn't the tribe were to stone them too.. so by being disrespectful towards his mother jesus was breaking gods law, by not stoning him mary and joseph were breaking gods law and by not stoning them the tribe were breaking gods law.. what do you think?

the wt's explanation of jesus's behaviour never did sit well with me.

do you agree?

sparrowdown

Jesus was half human and living in a male dominated society so his response reflected that.

A modern reply would sound something like - "don't sass me woman! I got this"

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Letter # 1 to the Governing Body of Jehovah's witnesses

by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

here is my first letter i posted to the governing body.

i also hope that brothers on the writing committee who may be lurking on this site (and have some clout) read my letter and bring in change to this very flawed policy around confession of sins.. enjoy.

the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses.

sparrowdown

The GB are not in the practise of entertaining suggestions from anyone.

They don't sit at a round table they sit at a seven pointed star table - and they already have the holy seven.😉