Posts by sparrowdown

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

sparrowdown

I remember in year before the announcement was made that they had decided to axe the bookstudy citing " reducing midweek travel burden for the brothers" as their reason there was studies in WT or KM or maybe both where the book study was praised as being such a blessing blah blah. Then when it was dumped I thought hmm so that's the change code if they start reminiscing about how wonderful an arrangement is and start going into it's divine inception etc then it could be the "windup music" for that particular arrangement.

I think WT does reveal their intentions before they carry them out and so this statement of infallibity could be laying the groundwork for some future change.

But this is WT we're talking about The Kings of Spin and The Masters of Confusion so.....

Maybe yes, maybe no.

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i really hate all these "what if" posts

by nowwhat? in

all these hypothetical questions about the organization's demise or what if god did this or that don't do anyone any good.

personal experiences.

info and insight about your congregation, circuit, area and the watchtower itself is what we need.

sparrowdown

WT sucks, cult-life's a bitch and then you die. It is what it is.

I would love to see WT crash and burn but we're burning daylight here people, it's time to open your mind, expand your horizons, do stuff, meet new people and choose to live!

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So the Elders want to get together, and I kinda want to.

by Darkknight757 in

so the wife and i were uninvited to another jw get together which we didn't want to go to anyways.

finally we find out that something on my facebook account is getting some people's in my old halls undies in a bunch.

so i was thinking of meeting with them to at least clear my wife's name and give them some much needed hell.

sparrowdown

Taking into account the gaslighting techniques of elders means you run the risk of feeling worse after it not better. But, if after considering the pro/cons of that you think it will help you move on and you want to stick it to them then I say go for it.

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Is Jehovah Male Or Female, Manly of Womanly

by frankiespeakin in

why is jehovah in the bible a male?

why not female since he is a god that is not earthly but from another realm where they don't have sex differences, does he have a penis?

does he have to pee and relieve himself?

sparrowdown

I love George Carlin, but I think women can fuck things up just aswell as a man can. Equal opportunities and all. lol.

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i really hate all these "what if" posts

by nowwhat? in

all these hypothetical questions about the organization's demise or what if god did this or that don't do anyone any good.

personal experiences.

info and insight about your congregation, circuit, area and the watchtower itself is what we need.

sparrowdown

Yeah, it seems to be the same what ifs aswell like on a continuous feedback loop of stupid - so de ja yawn.

I got into the hypotheticals when my brain was still asking "why, why why oh GB have you forsaken me?"

So, in other words when you are still emotionally invested the "what ifs" serve a purpose in helping you process what has happened to you but there comes a time when all you want is the facts and I think that's a good sign you're healing.

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Is Jehovah Male Or Female, Manly of Womanly

by frankiespeakin in

why is jehovah in the bible a male?

why not female since he is a god that is not earthly but from another realm where they don't have sex differences, does he have a penis?

does he have to pee and relieve himself?

sparrowdown

Similar to what Blondie said. Both. I think if there is a "God" this being is both male and female in perfect balance.

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Why are JWs so sensitive to criticism?

by Half banana in

i remember a roman catholic priest acknowledging on the bbc that the outrageously anti-clerical tv comedy father ted was a humorous mocking of his church but an acceptable thing.. try mocking the jw religion to a believer and the result is so very different.. just why is it that jehovah's witnesses can never take even the faintest hint of criticism of their religion?.

sparrowdown

I think it's due to the brainwashing. You cannot be fully indoctrinated to a dictatorial regime and be prepared to die or go to jail or shun even your closest friend or family for the sake of it and be wishy washy about someone criticizing it. Remember, JWs themselves are not allowed to criticize their religion just like in Nazi Germany no one could critisize Hitler or you could be turned in by a neighbor or so -called friend.Same kind of fear based reaction with dubs or any cult.

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What Comes After the Watchtower Collapse?

by schnell in

i was going to put this in my thread about pyramid schemes, but i thought it's discreet enough to warrant its own.

1) there are many faithful jws.

2) there are many men and women who could take control and fill the void if the watchtower collapses.

sparrowdown

Like others have said, WT isn't collapsing just morphing into something else.

I'd say everthing we see even their doublespeak as to the "work moving ahead at an accelerated pace" and at the same time "more money going out that is coming in" is all just to distract and keep people guessing, while the incremental (emphasis on the mental) transformation is talking place.

How do you boil a frog??

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Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot

by Simon in

why were we ever a jw?

were we mad?

we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.

sparrowdown

Ahh, no need for pity, look on the bright side, at least now you can make a modest living out of all the past, present and future "idiots."

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The status of women in early Christianity

by Leolaia in

the watchtower society maintains a very strict gender dichotomy in its organization.

this is news to no one.

although men -- in many cases, unqualified men -- are expected to reach for advancement within local congregations (e.g.

sparrowdown

I wasn't around when Leolaia was here, but wish I had because she seems intelligent and polite without a trace of bitchiness. Proof you can state your case without intimidation or causing others to feel small in the process.