I do not believe trinity, cross matters the way WT say it does. These issues were just a form of brand distinction for them. But, nor do I think the trinity matters in regards to "faith" either.
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Trinity...cross...Does it matter?
by NikL ini've been thinking about this for a while.. did jesus diee on a cross?
does it really matter?
it doesn't change anything that i can see.. is god a trinity?
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Does the Jehovah's Witnesses religoius cult create people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder ?
by Finkelstein inthe american psychiatry association lists nine symptoms – if someone ticks five of these, they could have narcissistic personality disorder.
the nine points of narcissism.
has a grandiose sense of self-importance.. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.. believes that he or she is ‘special’ and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people.. requires excessive admiration.. has a sense of entitlement.. is inter-personally exploitative (takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends).. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.. .
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We've had this kind of question posted here before and my answer is still the same I believe cults create narcissists. Especially born-ins they have no memory of what it's like to be "normal."
The good news is I believe being in a cult it is a type of learned narcissim which means it can be unlearned but it would mean identifying the narcissistic traits and dealing with them.
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Witnesses really hate it when you appear to leave.
by schnell ini have a certain customer, whom we will call sally.
i know sally only by face and only through work.
i am a truck driver on a local dedicated route, and i often deliver to her work.
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It's just the silly game they play where they think they can send you thought waves of guilt and shame by their mere presence plus a dirty look in case you are in doubt about your status as something gross that needs to be scraped off the bottom of their shoe.
Just have a big smile and a loud "top of the mornin to ya Miss Sally. Nice weather we're havin. You have yourself a great day now. Gotta run, see you next time."
That will really piss her off or it will break the ice either way win win.
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Skinned and Thrown About.....
by Tech49 inthis is a little long, but stick with me.. if you recall, when the building work was in full swing at the new lakefront villa (warwick), wt was having workers come and they would put them up for a year, or more, while they were providing "volunteer services".
with that, and the impending need for hundreds and hundreds of new khs in the usa territory, the congregations were abuzz with the need for "continued construction volunteers".
recently, as many of you know, wt headquarters has sent pretty much everyone home, and is no longer needing workers at the new warwick site, as the building is mostly complete, with the dedication coming up later this year.
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There were a few couples in my cong that did similar for the chance to be career witnesses. Two of the couples are back in town now dejected crying the "end of an era" the other are still in Equador last I heard on their own ticket looking for english speaking people to witness to - how ironic.
On a side note I ran into one of the couples in town one day and they told me all about their experience and why they were back.
After reading about closures and lay offs I decided to throw this question out there
"so what about the branch (the branch where they were) will they sell it?" and the husband who had been letting the wife do the talking up until this point immediately spoke up and said
"of course they will they're not sentimental"
I then said
"well they are not sentimental about their own people why would they be sentimental about some buildings."
He said "true , true."
I went away thinking hmmm interesting.
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Why do trolls do what they do?
by Londo111 ini truly don't understand the mindset of a troll.
i know it's been explained, but i still don't get it.
it is hard to distinguish between a troll and a jw apologist at times because the reactions are very similar.
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My gaug is if the poster keeps going round and round sucking time and energy, being given answers, and still keeps it going in a futile loop of neverending bullshit reponses masked as "but what about" questions then they're probably doing so for purposes other than genuine curiousity.
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Have you noticed the common practice is to knock indivual's self esteem?
by stuckinarut2 inin another thread, one of our members made a comment that caught my attention.. i have been trying to put my finger on a practice amongst the org and witnesses in general.... as soon as someone does something well, accomplishes something, or excels at something, the atmosphere effectiveley 'kicks them in the gut' to bring them down.. anything that makes a person grow or develop is blatently discouraged and therefore self esteem is squashed!.
the constant message telling a witness to be 'humble' is designed to suck any sense of growth or 'betterment' out of a person..... therefore this leaves the average witness to be a blubbering mess of insecurity and instability completely dependant on the organization...kind of like a 'battered-wife' scenario.... .
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This thread reminds me how much I miss posters like ADCMS he was so funny and we need more comedians on here to balance out all the "we're ex-jehovah's witnesses we speak out in seriousness" crap which frankly can be a real downer in large doses.
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What I miss about going out in service.
by compound complex inwell, very little, to be honest.
the structure and commitment of the ministry provided discipline necessary to my life.
therefore, i did it, as required, and felt some sense of fulfillment at the bible study stage.. i do like talking to people.
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Just no longer feeling that awful obligated pressure of being a walking talking billboard for the WT everywhere I go is wonderful.
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New Avatar, Same Old Me
by Simon insomeone decided to make their avatar almost identical to my old one so i changed mine to avoid any confusion.. <- so lookout for this anytime you want to read some "amazing words of wisdom" from now on :d.
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Outlaw's British cousin.
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Re LGBT - "What specific rights don't they currently have?"
Maybe with semi- transitioned trans people they are required to dress as their birth gender or use the bathroom according to their birth gender whilst at work or something??
Other than that, buggered if I know, now you mention it.
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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files
by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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What! Ray Franz was a fraud ??
I don't get it. Was he pretending to be an apostate?