i have been reading a lot of cases that have to do with church property, especially when the church is affiliated with a larger national church.
it looks like the most common of these is episcopal churches.
a lot of episcopal churches wanted to disaffiliate with the national church when the national church ordained an openly gay bishop, the local churches wanted to join the anglican church of uganda.
I don't know of any situation with WT or JW congregations that is similiar in any way to the example you mention.
Do you have any specific examples of JW congregations where an openly gay elder was appointed by WT and the congregation revolted because of it?
i don't think this topic has been discussed before but yesterday i read something to the effect that trump wants a human mission to mars to be completed within his presidency.. with that being said, the watchtower teaches that what started on earth ends on earth, in other words, the fall of adam and eve would end with the passing of the 1,000 year millennial reign when christ destroys all his enemies, rebellious "perfect" humans, and the devil and his demons who are let out the abyss for a short while.
he then hands the kingdom back to his father.
an elder in my old congregation once told us during a public talk that he was an ardent astronomer but then referenced the scripture where it says, "the earth he has given to the sons of men" (psalms 115:16).
Everything NASA does invalidates Bible prophecy.
https://therealdeal.com/2017/04/01/jared-kushner-wont-cash-out-of-dumbo-heights/.
jared kushner won’t cash out of dumbo heights (or out of much else, for that matter).
ethics disclosures released by wh friday show he is keeping interests in dumbo projects as well as in bulk of kushner cos’ nyc real estate portfolio.
I agree it is useful to know what these bastards are actually worth $$$ god knows they spend a lot of time hiding it from rank and file.
Thanks Barb.
okay, i keep reading something and though jw's do not get involved in national wars, my experience has always been they are very violent people.
every convention i have ever been to was filled with children being beat within an inch of their lives for just not being able to take a third day of mind-droning silence without being able to move or now even sleep.
i have seen whole congregations laugh at stories of children being beaten and calling out to "jehovah".
Corporal punishment of kids is common and JWs are emotionally and psychologically abusive just as they have learnt from their big ole narciccist daddies the GB. The abuse cycle is generational as all who grow up within the group end up with effed up view of themselves and others some incapable of healthy relationships. There is more than one type of "violence."
the way that the wt conducts business in russia, hiding ownership of property and moving money overseas, was a large factor in the jws falling afoul of the russian authorities.
it wasn't just 'extremist' views that came into play, it was also their handling of money that was illegal.. this article is from a russian news source - i had to use google translate to read it, so i have copied and pasted the whole article (i usually don't...apologies to the author of the article).
if someone has russian language skills, please feel welcome to offer a better translation.. .
They remind me of the hollywood depictions of the mafia. All nice and charming on the outside but murdering people and laundering money on the inside.
Yes WT is extremist.
it may be an amazing thought for many but i am sure " wishy, washy" congregations exist.
i am referring to congregations where the elders are idle in enforcing the g.bs guidelines on control.. i mean let's face it the organisation is an authoritarian regime, that works only if the elders enforce complete obedience to watchtower policies.
sadly in the congregations i was associated with the elders excelled at enforcing loyalty and obedience.. however with age, people mellow, elders can become more compassionate, even assume the voice of reason?
There are wishy-washy congs for sure they can be the most hypocritical I reckon because they choose to enforce rules when it suits them and choose to look the other way when it suits them - usually depending on who you are related to and if they like you so they can just as nepotisitic as hardline congs.
i just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.
banned.
which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..
Nobody can say sure what is going on now or will be going on in the future in the minds of every individual russian JW. For some this ban may just be what they need to start the waking up process for others it may harden their hearts in support of WT for others who knows? Shit happens and the chips will fall where they fall.
the way that the wt conducts business in russia, hiding ownership of property and moving money overseas, was a large factor in the jws falling afoul of the russian authorities.
it wasn't just 'extremist' views that came into play, it was also their handling of money that was illegal.. this article is from a russian news source - i had to use google translate to read it, so i have copied and pasted the whole article (i usually don't...apologies to the author of the article).
if someone has russian language skills, please feel welcome to offer a better translation.. .
It's only ever been about the money with WT. Every decision they make, every revelation of nu-lite boils down to $$$.
today i went to a large talk.. there was no arguing or swearing, just kindness and respect.. it was orderly and calm.. trash was put in the proper place.
people were even picking up litter that wasn't even theirs.. the speakers were passionate and inspiring.. the entire event was orchestrated by volunteers.. it was march for science, not a dub ass-embly.
so much for "only jehoopla's people" behaving like this at large events..
Interesting you say the Rebel, I have enjoyed attending many talks, lectures, conferences etc on various topics and subjects since waking up from my dub programming and my experience has been that the people at such events behaved just as you described. Far more enjoyable, informing and friendly than any dub indoctrination session that's for sure.
