Posts by sparrowdown

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I'm considering putting off my leaving

by paradiseseeker in

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i just wanted to share with you the thoughts that i've had lately.. my plan was to get a job, become independent and then leaving the org throughout this year 2018. i'm going to achieve the first step in a matter of weeks, the second one soon afterwards but maybe i will wait a little longer for the last one.. one year ago a friend of mine was reinstated.

we weren't very close friends back then, although we got along well.

but, since no many jws in my town want to hang out with him (because of his being a former disfellowshipped), we started to talk and go out more often and in a matter of half a year we've become very close friends, like brothers.

sparrowdown

Sounds like you've been looking for a reason to stay and you've found one, and that's fine btw, we all leave when we are good and ready. But just a few tips...

It well never be easy or "the right time" to leave and there will always be someone you don't want to disappoint.

Maybe if you leave your friend will follow suit ? You don't know who you may inspire to leave also.

Take responsibility for your own decisions and be realistic and truthful with yourself about it.

If you decide to stay for a while longer then stay a while longer because you decided it not because you're "helping" out a reinstated friend.

Give yourself a month or two and see how you feel about it then.

Maybe you're just not ready yet, but, remember the longer you stay the more likely you will be lulled back off into the sleep of inaction.

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Saw homemade "Cart art" and murmurs about cart working yesterday.To old to do cart work?

by caves in

yesterday i parked at a rest stop for a bit and there were 2 ladys at a cart.

the cart sign was hand painted.

that was odd to me.

sparrowdown

Seems in my area all they use are old and disabled people.

Could be some other reason they are not used and the elders didn't want to insult them by telling them we can't use you because you both are crazy and draw crazy arse pictures for the ministry.

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TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS "Handling Cases of Drug Abuse" September 1, 2018

by Not_Culty in

https://jwglossary.blogspot.com/2018/09/to-all-bodies-of-elders-handling-cases.html.

to all bodies of elders "handling cases of drug abuse".

september 1, 2018. to all bodies of elders re: handling cases of drug abusedear brothers: as noted below, the procedure for handling the misuse of marijuana and the abuse of medi- cal, illicit, or addictive drugs has been adjusted to harmonize with the procedure for handling the misuse of tobacco.

sparrowdown

Elders handling cases of drug abuse....hmmm what could go wrong...

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JW org collapses

by I Faded Twice in

ok so this is a topic i've pondered and go back and forth on.. i can easily see a point where lawsuits cause massive deficits in the organization.

honestly i feel like we are seeing the tip of the iceberg in regards to lawsuits on child abuse.

to me it looks like the property sell offs are to be able to get ready for this.

sparrowdown

I don't trust their numbers either, it is possible we are not getting the entire picture even with published figures.

Even so so KH sell offs, branch closures, congregation consolidations, lay offs of special pioneers and bethelites, reduction in printed material and the subsequent weaning of publishers off print and onto an online spiritual feeding program...

Yeah something is afoot that part is evident.

Sorry to sound all portentious but, the real question is how do we interpret the signs when we only have partial knowledge. Lol.

Is it collapse or is it some kind of planned obsolescence of an outdated model.

Are they going bankrupt or merely transitioning into ...into...what?

Are they downing or are they waving?

Only time will tell.

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You're in the Army Now: Jehovah's Witnesses No Longer Exempt From Finnish Draft

by Tahoe in

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https://sputniknews.com/europe/201809211068220658-finland-jehovah-witnesses-army/.

the finnish government has ruled that the current law allowing jehovah's witnesses to avoid military service, in place for several decades, is discriminatory and contradicts the constitution.. .

in the future, finnish jehovah's witnesses* will be obliged to either serve in the nation's military or perform civil service on the same terms as everyone else, the government ruled, submitting a corresponding proposal to parliament, national broadcaster yle reported.. according to the 1987 law, jehovah's witnesses were not only freed from the military draft, they were freed of any obligation to perform community service as a pacifist alternative, a common option among other young people in finland.

sparrowdown

They disagree with all forms of war and killing but child abusers abusing, shunning, breaking up families, suicides and encouraging death by refusal of blood transfusion and who can forget the great slaughter of armageddon they're just fine with.

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First year with baby!

by Darkknight757 in

i wanted to share a few recent pics of izabella with everyone.

this week marks her one year since her coming home from nicu.

she has been growing and changing so much these last few months in particular.

sparrowdown

What a precious baby.

Best life ever!

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I yelled at dubs today ( again )

by kairos in

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so i roll up to the job site and looky there, two uber pioneer dubs dragging themselves down the sidewalk.

both ladies are in there early 60's and born in.. my heart started pumping, but i had to act.i was directly across the street from them.

i walked right to the sidewalk and said in a very loud, but not mean voice: "you can't teach overlapping generations from the bible!!

sparrowdown

I am in two minds on this issue.

I know in their indoctrinated state their minds are impenetrable and anything you do or say they will use against you as proof of their beliefs.

But, I also believe this so-called "persecution complex" response is just another way of shutting down discussion and anyone that dares to disagree with them. It's like "play by my rules - or else I'll scream persecution."

When in reality, the truth is, anyone who publicly peddles a belief system by way of unsolicited home visits needs to be questioned and challenged hard! Everytime - even if it makes them squirm and feel uncomfortable.

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How Long Before They Introduce Tithing?

by pale.emperor in

when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.

i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.

i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.

sparrowdown

He's evading the questions he's not just a troll he's the new 'Richard Oliver."

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How Long Before They Introduce Tithing?

by pale.emperor in

when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.

i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.

i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.

sparrowdown

Like talking to a troll.

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Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

by pale.emperor in

former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

it reads rather culty.

i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

sparrowdown

Control a person's perception of reality and you control them.