Posts by zimunzucz

if the jws follow proverbs 27:17 they should not be afraid of any tension or friction.. in order for iron to sharpen iron you need pressure, tension friction and a bit of heated debate..

I've probably talked to over a 100 JWs who were out in service in 27 years- they will never admit the truth to a worldly person, even if it hits them between the eyes. Later when they get home they may think about what was said to them.

The worst time I was ever beaten at the door by a householder was when she asked me a 3 word question " are you happy?"

of course I said YES, but she saw the real truth in my face- "you need to stop lying to yourself"-- and she closed the door. That lady made me realize that I was lying to myself. If JWs would just stop lying to themselves about being unhappy, they might find the strength to leave the KH.

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Good arguments on responsible gun control

by barry in

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll8jeet2rxi

zimunzucz

I will never get a CC permit. I have a theory that list might be used for a blanket firearm confiscation scheme at some point.

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I had breakfast with 50+ JWs on Sunday

by zimunzucz in

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we pulled into a hotel parking lot saturday around 6pm on the return leg of a wonderful family vacation to new england - an then fate stepped in---a man in a suit got out of a car with the rest of a picture perfect family.

i immediately noticed all the name tags--- and my blood pressure spiked 50pts- damn!!

i was booked in a 4 story hotel full of jws-- the only time they took off the name tags was in the swimming pool- they were so proud of themselves.. at 6:30 am the hot water went cold in the wife's shower- what do you expect on the 4th floor when a herd of jws is trying to get ready at the same time?

zimunzucz

I have some of the oldest literature- even the 1925 WT book, The Way to Paradise. That's the one where they predict that in 1926 undertakers will be out of business, because no more people will be dying. As far as I know, no JW has left the KH after I have showed him that page in that book. Same with my very old 1920 WT. I don't know what keeps JW coming back to the KH today. It's not the Sunday brunch.

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What the hell, what's the deal with Summons for Jury Service?

by James Mixon in

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i posted two years ago with the same subject.

every two years i receive a summons.

for jury duty.

zimunzucz

My state lets you off Jury duty when you turn 70-- just check the box and never be bothered again.

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I had breakfast with 50+ JWs on Sunday

by zimunzucz in

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we pulled into a hotel parking lot saturday around 6pm on the return leg of a wonderful family vacation to new england - an then fate stepped in---a man in a suit got out of a car with the rest of a picture perfect family.

i immediately noticed all the name tags--- and my blood pressure spiked 50pts- damn!!

i was booked in a 4 story hotel full of jws-- the only time they took off the name tags was in the swimming pool- they were so proud of themselves.. at 6:30 am the hot water went cold in the wife's shower- what do you expect on the 4th floor when a herd of jws is trying to get ready at the same time?

zimunzucz

Yes- I had my fill of JWs this year. Thank you for the kind words of encouragement.

While I was on vacation, I stopped to visit a friend up north who is dealing with an adult daughter who has gone over to the the JWs. It became obvious to me, she is in it for the social aspect, as any negative facts he tries to share with her go nowhere. She has learned to employ the standard WT though stopping tactic=, I didn't come over here to argue about religion" ,to weasel out of an honest dialogue with her father.

Plus, for some reason they have really been hitting my neighborhood, like 3 times in 6 months. Before that it was one time very couple years.They have never talked to me at my house, but I would come home to the tract in the door. So, I would go for a walk with the dog and find them close by. Stop and chat with them. They would love to get away from me, but I just walk down the sidewalk with them and talk away.

"Would you like to see my original 1920 WatchTower? I can go get it. It's really great. It has a cross on the cover. The main article is the brand new truth from Bethel, "millions now living will never die". Except they all did. That was the 1914 generation. I'll bet JWs don't believe that generation is still alive-- do they? Only a dope would believe that, right? Have you ever looked up "Beth Sarim" on the Internet-- that's the big mansion the WT built for Abraham, David and all the ancient worthies who were getting resurrected any day, right after Armageddon. Can you believe the stupidity of the WT, they even made the deed out to them!

Gab, Gab, I just get on a roll-after a minute I'm the only one talking, haha. I won't let them change the subject to something in their comfort zone-- no sirree.

How long you been a JW? Over 60 years! Wow, then you remember the "stay alive until 1975" hoopla, don't you? You don't? Now don't be joshing me, I know better, I heard it myself. Look up Charles Sinutko on the Internet-- he gave a talk at a WT assembly in 1969 and used those very words. I even called him up personally one time- he never denied saying that. He spent over 70 years pulling the plow for the Watchtower-- and today he lives in a trailer park-- some retirement- right?

Well, by the time they get back to their car, they are a basket case from the can of whoop ass I unloaded on them. I'm not mean about it, just concerned for their life. If there is an elder type in the car, well, I am not so nice to them. They get the 1914-2014 treatment and more-- as Mr Elder puts the car in gear and makes a quick getaway for a the KH-- service time is over.

Well, I see my 2 hour upgrade to Windows 10 on my laptop is finished-- time to see how it works

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Tsongas Center Lowell MA, Sunday Session of the Regional Convention 2015

by oppostate in

we're breaking up the regional convention event by going each of the days to a different weekend session.. the tsongas center lowell ma was a bit hard to find, we got lost and got there after the first song and prayer (just in time for the first talk)!

we ran into so many from our home congregation who aren't even assigned to this rc!.

i think it's quite common for publishers now to break up the convention weekend and attend at times when their congregation isn't assigned.. some families (3) were attending this particular convention so as to meet up with family members who are in another part of the region.

zimunzucz

I can see singles going on different days, in order to meet other singles. Also many more people are working part time jobs now. They may only be able to get off only one weekend day at a time each week- not 2 in a row.

I have a sick feeling just thinking about the 5 day summer assemblies from the days of yore- back when they still had a full meal service for the brothers.- Those outdoor assemblies in 95+ degree degree ballparks were good for you. Sitting and standing in line with 30,000 sweaty JWs built up appreciation for the new system of things.

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Are atheists more likely to be morally good than Christians?

by FusionTheism in

i have no problem saying atheists and christians are equal.. but some people seem to have the belief that atheists are more likely to be morally good, or more likely to change the world for good, than christians and theists.. but what evidence do you have to support this claim?.

if atheism is what causes people to do great positive things for the world, then why weren't martin luther king, jr., william wilberforce, isaac newton, francis collins, barack obama, mother theresa, abraham lincoln, or john f. kennedy atheists?.

zimunzucz

In some ways, religion has created it's own problem.The religion that is most active in supporting food pantries and homeless shelters will positively draw the homeless into that area, which could encourage people to avoid working for their daily bread and seek free handouts instead. A society that only distributes help based on true need, rather than blanket "feel good" charity is probably better for society.

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I had breakfast with 50+ JWs on Sunday

by zimunzucz in

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friends

we pulled into a hotel parking lot saturday around 6pm on the return leg of a wonderful family vacation to new england - an then fate stepped in---a man in a suit got out of a car with the rest of a picture perfect family.

i immediately noticed all the name tags--- and my blood pressure spiked 50pts- damn!!

i was booked in a 4 story hotel full of jws-- the only time they took off the name tags was in the swimming pool- they were so proud of themselves.. at 6:30 am the hot water went cold in the wife's shower- what do you expect on the 4th floor when a herd of jws is trying to get ready at the same time?

zimunzucz

I got off the elevator and 2 Hispanic women were waiting- I asked the younger one if she spoke English- she did. I used the same special talk 1914-2014 line- she had a puzzled look-

I repeated 1914 to 2014 , it's been a hundred years and nothing has happened yet. I had to literally explain what the WT said was going to happen in 1914 and how they have been predicting the end was just another generation away for 100 years, Finally, I could see the light bulb light up in her eyes. She turned to the older woman (her mother?) and translated everything I had said back to her.It was obvious she didn't know anything about WT history.

"Look it up on the Internet"- then other JWs showed up, so I left.

One of the teens I gave the paper to was sitting at the breakfast table next to us with a girl looked to be in her early 20's- that girl was telling another JW brother about a guy from Cleveland who was driving down to this assembly in TN to meet her that morning. The younger girl looked to be around 15-16 and she was just looking at her smartphone. I ran into her in the hall later and gave her one of the slips- "don't let anyone see this- this is your freedom". She wasn't offended, looked at it and said , thanks.

These two girls appeared to be Hispanic as did about 50% of the JWs at that hotel.

For a long time now, I have seen that JWs are craving one thing the most from the public, R-E-S-P-E-C-T.

So it's a bummer when they get a wake up call as to how the public really views their religion.