Posts by zimunzucz

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A difficult yet necessary decision

by Brother Jeramy in

the past five weeks have been perhaps the most painful in my life as a witness.. some months ago a young man (i'd say in his late thirties or early forties) began attending meetings at my kingdom hall.

he had just moved to my area from another state.

he had disassociated himself from his home congregation many years back, when he was 20 years old and going through many of the typical trials and temptations most young men experience.. two of the elders met with him initially, and they later shared the details with the body of elders.

zimunzucz

So, if I understand this right, you are leaving the KH, because a schmuck (his standing with the elders) got backhanded by the elders for having the impertinence of asking them to speed up his reinstatement process? The WT-org is a cruel taskmaster, always has been, always will be.

Why not leave over something that directly affected you or over a false doctrinal issue- and then make public statement about it?

The elders did that guy a favor- they likely sensed that he wouldn't be able to unlearn ( in 3 or 4 months) his old (now incorrect) WT dogmas and would have made trouble for them down the road, ie, "that's not how we used to do it, that's not how the generation was taught 20 years ago". It's not repentance they needed from him, no, it was 9 to 12 months of continuous brainwashing at the KH.

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Where Is The Jehovah's Witness Zeal?

by minimus in

jw
friends

it seems to me that the religion is nearly dead.

or dying.

very little pulse exists for the organization.

zimunzucz

JWs need a date to have zeal. Stay alive until 2025 has a nice ring to it- - gotta see if the writing dept can come up with something new-- the boys are really good-- ( 2025 will be the Jubilee year of 1975- so it's Biblical)

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so how disobedient are you?

by sowhatnow in

things religious organizations practice that are non biblical [ or what were told not to do] pray in public [jesus said go into your room and pray in secret.

jesus always went away to pray]build houses of worship store up treasures on earthjudge their fellow man and condemn their fellow man.

preach doctrines of menclaim to be gods special property and for some faiths, do not pray the prayer jesus said to pray.

zimunzucz

I have a bad habit, ie, making authority figures look stupid. JWs and Mormons get most of my attention, except I can go easy on Mormons as they will come to your home and do yard work, home cleaning repairs, etc, So, if you are needy, elderly, disabled, etc call the LDS church and ask for some help. They are really eager to help, just don't go to their meetings.

carry on, I was just talking.

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Where Is The Jehovah's Witness Zeal?

by minimus in

jw
friends

it seems to me that the religion is nearly dead.

or dying.

very little pulse exists for the organization.

zimunzucz

What will your Legacy be in life Minumus, besides being a prolific poster? I think I am leaving- this place is a major time killer-

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Need to Vent: Well this weekend is a wash, 3 days of my life i will not get back and wife is slipping in to cult mode

by goingthruthemotions in

yep, the cult fest is upon us....3 days of my life i will not get back....ughhhhhhhh.

and my wife has been slipping in to cult mode the last 2 days.....you know the look.

almost like a glazed over look with a side of guilt and a side of narrow mindedness.

zimunzucz

Lies, manipulation and schemes shouldn't be required of anybody who has learned the TTATT. If everyone in the KH stopped doing that, I'll bet they would look around and find 1/4 of their KH members have been fooling everyone about their true feelings. Enough already with being a phoney.

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WT October 15, 2015 - Don't believe Apostate Lies

by Designer Stubble in

the last article in this new wt, shows me that the organization is dealing with much information that is damaging them.

i am sure that the many recent lawsuits are being noticed by the r&f.. here are some gems from that article, titled the naive person believes every word.

we must be very selective about what we consider worthy of our attention.

zimunzucz

JWs never exaggerate, they are real Bible scholars and only follow the Bible. ha- - that is what a young adult JW girl told me last weekend at the hotel- if she only knew the quality of the people in the writing dept--

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The Confederate Flag

by Simon in

the latest controversy over the confederate flag just sums up to me the state of dysfunction that exists in american society.. in summary: a white supremacist nutter shoots 9 black people dead in a church.

he's clearly inspired by the messages of others which the confederate flag is often a symbol of.. it seems like a no-brainer to remove it.

not only isn't it removed, it isn't even lowered at all as a mark of respect.. and of course now there are the people who want to defend their right to have it.

zimunzucz

They interviewed a wide swath of people in my local FL newspaper. Hardly anyone saw anything wrong with the Confederate flag- even the blacks just viewed it as " old history", and not something that personally affected them today, unlike getting a good job , which has gotten very hard for Blacks since the president let in the illegals. As I see it, this flag thing is a calculated distraction, to keep the minorities from seeing Obama's failures in the African American community. Some blacks are doing OK, Like the Haitians down here, who are real workers-- they have taken over the trucking and moving jobs. I shook the hand of a Haitian man recently who was of the same trade I was."Your people fought for your freedom- you shed blood to get free- not like the blacks in America." I sometimes wonder, if the black slaves in America would have ever organized and fought for their own freedom had the Civil war never happened.

Speaking of Freedom- it appears the Federal government told Amazon they had to stop selling the Confederate Flag on their auction site- imagine that, being strong armed by a democratic government.

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Contrary to News Reports the ZEAL is Still There

by steve2 in

zeal has always been a valued word in the jw arsenal.

even if you don't see it in your own local congregation, you keep hearing about it.

"zeal this" and "zeal that".

zimunzucz

Only the best JW liars can have the appearance of "true zeal"- they have fooled themselves, though, as the lie is costing them the best years of their life-- before they die like everyone else in the world before them.

Just wait until the Great Tribulation - their zeal will disappear, just like Fluffy the poodle.

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Is it necessary to prepare for the Watchtower or book study?

by BashfulAshG in

all of my years in the truth, i never understood why we had to study before each meeting.

the contents are self-explanatory with the answers to the printed question within the first or the last sentence of the paragraph.

then, commenting never made sense, especially comments and experiences that don't answer the printed question.

zimunzucz

JW have shown themselves to be blockheads when it comes to deciphering the faithful slave's "meat in die season"- types, anti-types, greater, lesser-- they used to say, well, only the anointed can understand today' s 'Tower and then everyone in the group would smile and nod their heads- except the end of 6000 years of human existence and the date -1975 on chart in the "freedom" book, now all the JWs knew what the hidden meaning was in that book!

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Where Is The Jehovah's Witness Zeal?

by minimus in

jw
friends

it seems to me that the religion is nearly dead.

or dying.

very little pulse exists for the organization.

zimunzucz

Well, I'm not sure how Minimus knows what JWs are doing, but JWs are still talking, but doing less canvassing, IMO- who wants to do cold calls and have to explain WT mistakes?

I ran into 2 Hispanic men every other day just before 7am at the 7-11 a few months ago. The tip off was when I saw the older one talking to a guy pumping gas and holding up a medium size tract-- aha- It was still dark, so if your weren't looking for them, you didn't see them.

So I walked around to the side and just as I expected, I spies a younger JW- 18-20 sitting in the car. I give him an earful- then the other JW comes back and he gets it to. My guess is they were doing their service time the easy way in April for the special easy pioneer rope-a-dope campaign- is it 30 hrs? They were taking turns so as to not get worn out- haha- but counting the full time, I suppose.

They would hunker down in the seat when they saw me-too late- - I even left home 10 minutes early before work so I could talk to them. yes, I set them up several times just so they could lie to me. They just don't care if they get caught lying about shunning, dates, etc- nope, they just shrug their shoulders and ignore they are liars. The younger one had a chance- maybe he looked up beth sarim and the websites I mentioned-- They lasted a week and half- I was amazed they took that many days of punishment from me.