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  JWs AND THE OCCULT!

  by ADJUSTMENTS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pcvzpebrkxg.

  to go along with this video if you look closely at any cover of the latest wt or aw magazines you will always find (if you take your time) a pyramid or triangle in some shape or form even if it is not completely symmetrical, check it out on the jw website.

  also virtually all kingdom hall exteriors will have a pyramid or triangle shaped roof, take a look at your local hall or google kingdom halls.

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  DuvanMuvan

  Is this for real?
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  When a JW relative came to visit . . . .

  by skeeter1 in

  1. social
  2. family

  for those of you who are shunned, it is in disguise a blessing.

  becuase when you are not shunned, jws come to visit.

  it is the most tiresome hosting you will ever endure.. for the first 2 1/2 days, it was straight talk about "jehovah", the "organization", the "bible", then, "how bad these times are", "can't wait to see someone dead in the new world" .

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  DuvanMuvan

  " One more thing, as irritating as it must have been to listen to JW claptrap for the better part of 4 days, consider this: many JWs are so sheltered and uneducated and poorly informed about the goings on in the world, that they seriously do not have anything else to talk about."

  So true.

  It could also be that for some, they don't realise the difference between witnessing and talking like a normal human being. Because they're told not to associate with "worldy people" they cant make the distinction and for them they feel like they're just making small talk.
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  What do you think attracts new ones to the JW organization now?

  by cultBgone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is an offshoot from the jws then and now thread...it made me wonder what exactly people find attractive about the cult today?

  why are they joining?

  any thoughts?.

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  DuvanMuvan

  " they are united , are taught the same and act the same everywhere on this planet"

  -emeth

  the problem with statements like that is that they only need one example to be proven wrong. Also, you cant seriously believe that you know exactly how every jw acts. That's just crazy.
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  Going to a meeting for the first time in a while- love bombing expected

  by DuvanMuvan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  long story short, i have to go to the kh on tuesday with my mum and i havent been in at least a month now.

  the reaon im going is because when i got my mum to finally let me make my own decision about whether or not i want to be a jw she made me promise that i'd go to the memorial, assemblies and if she had a talk.

  she's already told me that people have been asking for me and only a few people in my cong know that i dont think it's the truth.. when i was trying to leave a couple brothers really piled on the "encouragement" and i dread to think about what it will be like when they see me again.

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  DuvanMuvan

  A thought just occured to me. The reason they're being so uptight about getting me back in is because right now, they have no power over me. I'm not baptised so they cant combat my apostacy with a DF so they're still trying to convert me with the same tricks they use on people new to the religion. They don't like the idea that someone is going around telling his school friends about everything wrong with the religion without being shunned by his family.
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  Going to a meeting for the first time in a while- love bombing expected

  by DuvanMuvan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  long story short, i have to go to the kh on tuesday with my mum and i havent been in at least a month now.

  the reaon im going is because when i got my mum to finally let me make my own decision about whether or not i want to be a jw she made me promise that i'd go to the memorial, assemblies and if she had a talk.

  she's already told me that people have been asking for me and only a few people in my cong know that i dont think it's the truth.. when i was trying to leave a couple brothers really piled on the "encouragement" and i dread to think about what it will be like when they see me again.

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  DuvanMuvan

  Long story short, i have to go to the kh on tuesday with my mum and i havent been in at least a month now. The reaon im going is because when i got my mum to finally let me make my own decision about whether or not i want to be a jw she made me promise that i'd go to the memorial, assemblies and if she had a talk. She's already told me that people have been asking for me and only a few people in my cong know that i dont think it's the truth.

  When i was trying to leave a couple brothers really piled on the "encouragement" and i dread to think about what it will be like when they see me again. What with the gb going on about keeping the young ones in. I've already been offered a study twice and i think they're gonna take me turning up at the meeting (then at the memorial in a week after) as a sign that they need to turn up the sheperding juice. I probably wont be able to wait in the car because my mum will have to talk to the ministry school guy afterwards and she has the keys. And of course, I'll have to make my way through a wall of jws to escape.

  I think the thing that bothers me the most about it is how insincere it is. I've sat through enough ministry school sisters "talks" to know bad acting when i see it.
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  "The Joy of Sect", Simpsons Episode...

  by juanvazquez88 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last night, me and my wife were watching some the simpsons episodes.

  we both laugh and enjoy that serie.

  but just in this one, my wife face was serious and even uncomfortable.

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  DuvanMuvan

  i remember in one fairly recent south park episode a few Asian jws came to someone's door and were being really annoying and stuff but nothing more than a quick 2 minute, at most, joke

  i would love to see them really get into the religion like with the mormon episode
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  Same sex marriage legalised in the UK at midnight tonight!!!

  by DuvanMuvan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  title pretty much explains it all.

  lots of people are getting married at midnight tonight.. what do you guys think?

  maybe if anyone gets called on by a jw this weekend you can ask them what they think about it.. im just glad because it shows that religion doesn't define our conscience, that basic human decency can prevail over time and hopefully, these types of gradual but big changes will be present in the wts too in the future .

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  DuvanMuvan

  I'm guessing husband or wife if anything
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  Same sex marriage legalised in the UK at midnight tonight!!!

  by DuvanMuvan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  title pretty much explains it all.

  lots of people are getting married at midnight tonight.. what do you guys think?

  maybe if anyone gets called on by a jw this weekend you can ask them what they think about it.. im just glad because it shows that religion doesn't define our conscience, that basic human decency can prevail over time and hopefully, these types of gradual but big changes will be present in the wts too in the future .

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  DuvanMuvan

  @band on the run someone else will probably explain it better than me but I think it was in the house of lords or something like that. I remember on the news a few months ago about the vote being passed on a 3:1 vote or something like that.

  @wizzstick evidently the brother meant that god would stop it from becoming polluted after an unknown amount of time. But rest assured, god will sancitfy the marriage union before this generation's overlap dies out. So stand firm in the troof, pioneer and donate to the world wide work because remember, god loves a cheerful giver.
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  Same sex marriage legalised in the UK at midnight tonight!!!

  by DuvanMuvan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  title pretty much explains it all.

  lots of people are getting married at midnight tonight.. what do you guys think?

  maybe if anyone gets called on by a jw this weekend you can ask them what they think about it.. im just glad because it shows that religion doesn't define our conscience, that basic human decency can prevail over time and hopefully, these types of gradual but big changes will be present in the wts too in the future .

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  DuvanMuvan

  @Justhuman14 what i really dislike about that response to gay marriage is that it implies that just because a few gay people want to get married, everyone will become gay. Believe it or not, most of the population is straight, so jumping to that conclusion is pretty out there isn't it?

  But let's say you were right. Gay marriage is legalised and everyone instanteously becomes gay. Where will all the babies come from? Adpotion will only work in the short run, and so will sperm banks. But it's actually pretty simple.

  Say you have two couples living next door to each other. One gay and one lesbian couple. Both of them would like children. Now obviously, having sex with each other would be out of the question. But to say that in 100 years time humankind would be too dumb to know what to do when we have loads of women with eggs and no sperm and loads of men with sperms but no eggs, you obviously have no hope for us as a species.

  now back to the real world where only about 4% of the population is gay. You have nothing to worry about. Arguing against something by stating what could probably maybe happen if it were taken to the extreme (which is pretty much impossible in this case) isn't a valid reason
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  What do you think attracts new ones to the JW organization now?

  by cultBgone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is an offshoot from the jws then and now thread...it made me wonder what exactly people find attractive about the cult today?

  why are they joining?

  any thoughts?.

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  DuvanMuvan

  The not dying stuff probably