one of the things that keeps me going is thinking about the things my family and i will be able to do once we are all out, together, and free at last.
(and we will be out together, i'm staying positive!).
i soooo look forward to christmas.
Let us know how it goes, yeah?
Yeah but I've decided that I'm gonna wait a bit though. I literally only stopped going to the meetings on Sunday (that was my last one). If I start going out with her straight away my mum will think I only left because of her. Then the elders are gonna be more annoying than they were before.
It's probably because people who find it will see that the nice people who visted their house the other day were actually just reciting one of many pre-written responses. I know I didn't like the idea of just repeating what others told me to say when I was on the ministry and it seemed kind of pointless.
It also undermines any "knowledge" (scriptualor scientific) that jws could appear to have when you meet them for the first time and they don't hesitat. In answering your questions.
one of the things that keeps me going is thinking about the things my family and i will be able to do once we are all out, together, and free at last.
(and we will be out together, i'm staying positive!).
i soooo look forward to christmas.
Lol vidiot I've been getting these really annoying "hints" from her friends that I should stop being such a pussy and ask her out already blah blah
as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.
when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.
this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.
I'm new to this forum so I'm not exactly sure on all of the "lingo". But has this thread been hijacked*? I've seen people use that phrase in a similar context and was just wondering.
If so I'm willing to place money on the fact that heavensgate knew this would happen
*by heavensgate
as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.
when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.
this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.
To be honest, I don't think arguing over the definition of words is helping anyone.
Heavensgate as the only other active jw on this thread, you're doing a really bad job at helping dot come to grips with what they are reading.
Quite frankly, seeing the amount of time you've taken to NOT answer a relatively simple question and instead get into pointless arguments, makes me think you're trying to stall
as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.
when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.
this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.
So your reason for not answering the question is, lots of people before you already have? Well then surely you are in a better position to debate if you've already been a part of one and hopefully you would have come to a conclusion by now.
I also saw how you listed some people as "masters of deception". Once again, let other people come to that conclusion for themselves. No offence but your view on a lot of things will be biased. Obviously if YOU believe some things are/aren't true and someone disagrees then from your point of view they're wrong. But to someone else you might be the joe who is wrong. If you're gonna tell people that they're wrong at least give your reasons for why YOU think they're wrong.
Also, dot was right when he said there was no need for insults. I got a bit carried away before and I think you are now. If you don't want to answer a question, then fine. But calling people stupid isn't necessary. If the reason that you're still posting here is because you want to "save" a few people from being sucked into the vicious cult that is this forum then you're going about it wrong.
as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.
when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.
this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.
Heavensgate I think you kind of missed the point. It isn't fair for you to tell people like dot that people like data dog and outlaw are only on this site to slander the jws and in the same way it isn't fair for anyone else who is an ex jw to constantly bombard people that have legitimate doubts with ttatt. It should be left to them to decide where and whether or not they want to look for the answers for themselves.
You telling someone that their question doesn't really matter when looking at "the moral of the story" and saying that they need to be prepared for the judgement of god doesn't address the problem. In fact you still haven't answered the question yourself unless I've missed something then I apologise. Whether or not dot is really in the truth is the real moral of the story. Im gonna be honest and say that I never really paid attention in the meetings so I'm not sure if this is true. But didn't Jesus (or maybe it was Paul) say to make the truth your own or at least to seek the truth? Well how could someone do that without considering all the facts themselves?
it is rare to have absolute proof of the fact that the borg is categorically wrong.. the recent discovery of hominid footprints in happisburgh, norfolk, england is one such.
these footprints are of a family of people who walked in the soft mud 800/850 thousand years ago.
this is properly substantiated fact not open to dismissal.. further evidence in the uk shows the use of flint tools in hunting and butchering animals again accurately dated to 450,000/500,000 yearsthe bible traces adams creation to something over 6000 years ago.
Well I'm assuming that the people who discover and date these footprints are the same people that do the same for fossils of dinosaurs and stuff. Because, unless I'm mistaken I'm pretty sure that the wt use the fact that dinosaurs existed millions of years ago to disprove young earth creationists views and try to convince people that the bible is scientifically accurate. Anyone wanna try and see if any jws will accept the evidence that disproves their own doctrine?
as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.
when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.
this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.
w08 2/15 23-24 'Christ's presence what does it mean to you?' says:
The time period during which “this generation” lives seems to correspond to the period covered by the first vision in the book of Revelation. (Rev. 1:10–3:22) This feature of the Lord’s day extends from 1914 until the last of the faithful anointed ones dies and is resurrected.—See Revelation—Its Grand Climax At Hand! page 24, paragraph 4.
w10 4/15 10-11 'Holy Spirit's role in the outworking of Jehovah's purpose' says:
14 What does this explanation mean to us? Although we cannot measure the exact length of “this generation,” we do well to keep in mind several things about the word “generation”: It usually refers to people of varying ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period; it is not excessively long; and it has an end. (Ex. 1:6) How, then, are we to understand Jesus’ words about “this generation”? He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation. That generation had a beginning, and it surely will have an end. The fulfillment of the various features of the sign clearly indicate that the tribulation must be near.
On the jw.org online library these are found under Generation: 'understanding clarified (2008)'. Right under 'understanding clarified (1995)'
hey i joined this thread recently and thought this was a good way to introduce myself.
i am 15, still going to school and i live in the uk.
a good chunk of my mum's side of the family are jws.
I forgot to mention that the first thing the elder asked me when I told him that I didn't think the jws had the truth was "Have you been told this from somewhere?" he didn't even ask my why before he asked this. So according to him, I'm guessing that either I'm not able to come to that conclusion by myself because I'm only a teenager, the gb were right when they said that every "worldly" person is out to lead me away from the "truth" or that nobody could even think of saying such a thing without someone telling them so because it's so obviously the truth.
It was also nice to actually say no when someone in the kh asks something for the first time. I always felt too bad and always ended up saying yes to everything.
