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  My Favorite Things - JW Style

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  (sing to the tune of the "sound of music"

  good return visits and good bible studies;.

  fruitful long hours with my service buddies; .

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  (sing to the tune of the "Sound of Music"

  Good return visits and good Bible studies;

  Fruitful long hours with my service buddies;

  Magazine routes that are flourishing well;

  People that tell me that I'm doing swell.

  Doughnuts and coffee and hot chocolate steaming

  Placed all my literature--think that I'm dreaming;

  People who welcome the good news I bring;

  These are a few of my favorite things.

  When the dog bites; When the door slams; When I'm told "get lost".

  I simply remember my favorite things, and then I don't feel....so cross.

  Big service meetings and publishers plenty;

  Finding sheep-like ones though they are not many;

  Cars that keep running though tied up with string;

  Pioneer school and the joy that it brings.

  Blue skies and sunshine although it is our fate;

  To live in the cloudiest spot in the whole state;

  Getting my time in on days that it rained;

  People who help me when I'm feeling drained.

  When I'm so broke; That it's no joke; When I'm unemployed;

  I simply remember my favorite things, and then I'm no so....annoyed.

  Drafts up our dresses and holes in our mittens;

  Ice on our boots and our toes get frost bitten;

  Householders screaming abusively loud;

  Please tell me there's just one sheep in this crowd.

  Wind that is cutting and noses that freeze;

  A lunch of some hot macaroni and cheese;

  Telling the world of our glorious king;

  These are a few of my favorite things.

  When I feel ill; And the group's nil; When it's wet and gray;

  I simply remember my favorite things, and then I stay out....all day.
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  Length of creative days.

  by dothemath in

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  now that we're starting to read the bible at the beginning again.........i was wondering if this subject has ever been discussed.. the length of the creative days........used to be considered 7000 years in length.......stated rather dogmatically up until around the mid 1980's.

  (aid book says this......insight book does not) of course....this is quite rediculous.......... more recent publications don't stress this .........just periods of time.......... yet there was never anything published to indicate how wrong this old view was.........done very gradually.......i think some still think the creative days were still 7000 years long.. if this topic has come up before.....maybe someone could post a link to it..

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  In the January 22, 2004, Awake, there is a article about a scientist who learned the "truth" and was baptized, I believe, in 1978. One of the things that convinced him it was truth was that the Bible teaches that the creative days were "thousands" of years long--not 24 hours. I can't find the article right now, but as I read it, I thought, "Back then, the Society was still teaching that each day was 7,000 years long" and, of course, that was how the Franz arrived at the 1975 date (6,000 years, allowing the remaining 1,000 for the millennium).

  By the way, their chronology charts used to show Adam's creation in the year 4,026 B.C.E. Does anyone know when the last time that date was published.

  Another question, the 1975 date was calculated based on the assumption that Adam (as well as Eve) was created the very last year of the sixth creative day and the seventh day started in immediately. When 1975 passed without any event, I did wonder if the 6,000 year reasoning might still be correct if perhaps the sixth creative day did not end for a few years after 4026 B.C.E. In other words, if the seventh day began in 4,006 B.C.E., then we could expect Armageddon to come on or before 1995. I thought that could tie in with the "generation" being as long as 80 years from 1914.

  Well, I spent over 40 years waiting for the end, not preparing for retirement, and am paying for it now. Thank God I'm still healthy enough to work. I'm still amazed when I hear talks directed at young people not to be overly concerned about retirement, life insurance, or health insurance because the end is sooooooo very close. The last talk I heard from a circuit overseer was not to sacrifice your children to the "god of higher education."
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  Yoga - Recent article

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  i'm sure there was an article during the last year or two confirming that yoga is not for christians.

  i went back through a bunch of magazines but can't find it.

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  I'm sure there was an article during the last year or two confirming that yoga is not for Christians. I went back through a bunch of magazines but can't find it. Can anyone help?
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  Circuit Accounts Servants Confesses how the SCAM WORKS!!

  by JT in

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  yes, i too have wondered how an assembly that is held in a fully paid for assembly hall, with no food service, could possibly have $10,000 in expenses.

  i suppose the bethel speakers have transportation expenses - maybe $1000 or so.

  as for rent on the assembly hall, well you have already paid for it once, why pay again?

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  Does anyone remember when the accounts report was read in great detail to the entire audience and the audience was asked to vote "yes" or "no"
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  Circuit Assembly Report

  by Hapgood in

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  coming out of the lurking mode to give you all a report on the 2 day ca that i attended this past weekend.

  i always enjoy other reports that have been posted so i thought i would share my observations.

  i attend with my jw hubby to keep him company so he doesn't have to go alone, that's the only reason that i go.. i didn't take any notes, so i'm doing this by memory.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  I, too, heard the talk about the UN at our 2-day circuit assembly. I did take notes, but would have to find them. But I do remember being nauseated at the hypocrisy.

  I've long noticed the discrepancies in the accounts report. Does anyone here remember when they used to ask the audience to vote on expenditures? That was in the 1950's, maybe early 60's.

  The next talk was the one where the CO said not to be overly concerned about health insurance as we would have perfect health in the coming new world so close at hand. He also said not to worry about have sufficient life insurance to protect the family as we would have everlasting life in the coming new order so close at hand. I took notes word for word on that one.

  The DO told us that almost every word at the circuit assembly comes from the Society and that there are about 35 pairs of eyes that look over the material (I assume lawyers, proofreaders, etc.) before it comes to us. We can be assured that we are getting Jehovah's thoughts on the matter and not just the thoughts for the speaker.
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  Would You Have Given Your Life Up For Your Brother At One Time?

  by minimus in

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  jw's are all supposed to be marked by the love they have for one another.

  the love is called a great one because it is a "self-sacrificing"one.

  theoretically, a witness would simply die for another witness because of the brotherhood---no questions asked.

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  "So many JWs blithely say they would die for another, but when they are asked to give them a ride to the KH, they whine and make excuses."

  Yes, Blondie - for six years when we were caring for my aged mother, almost everyone in the congregation made excuses why they couldn't stop by (a couple notable exceptions). She was suffering from memory loss which at first was minimal. They took the attitude that she might not remember that they were there. They forgot that her caregivers would remember and would appreciate the visit plus my mother's demeanor was better when she had visitors.

  Die for her or for her caregivers? Not a chance!

  I don't blame the congregation as much as the Watchtower, but that's another subject.
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  BBC Documentary: Apocalypse Now And Then

  by sonofapreacherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  did anyone else see this show last night?

  it was on the more obscure bbc4 (available in the uk on satellite or cable).. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/listings/programme.shtml?day=yesterday&filename=20031029/20031029_2200_4544_28579_40.

  the programme looked at recent media preoccupation with the end of the world (asteroid collisions, global warming, etc.).

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  I was an adult when the Society indicated that 1975 was the likely date for the beginning of the thousand-year reign. I remember the circuit overseer made the statement on two consecutive visits that, "The Society was not wrong about 1914, and it will not be wrong about 1975." I sat through two Watchtower studies that went deep into the chronology supporting the date, one entitled, "Why are you looking forward to 1975?" Some would argue that they didn't say unequivocably that 1975 was when Armageddon was going to occur, then my question is, why did they always keep talking about it? In fact, some of were of the opinion that it might be 1974.

  I also remember that after 1975 (can't remember the year) the Kingdom Ministry had us placing older publications. One of the publications that we were to place was the one from about 1966, "Then is Finished the Mystery of God" (I think that was the name), where they first suggested that it would seem logical that 1975 would be the year. Can you imagine offering that publication after the year had already passed?

  I remember, since there were other choices, that I opted for another publication.
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  tattoos...did you rebel and get one?

  by morty in

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  2. friends

  after i left the "troof" the first thing i did was run out and get a tattoo.now ,some 18 years later i still dont regret it.i even have gotten a couple of new ones in the past couple of years......i mean not that i am covered in them,but i think if a women has them ,there is nothing wrong with that has long as they are not all over everywhere.ie...neck,face or lower arms......... i just think it is sexy on a man..( a few....not on the same areas as the women ..ie..face and neck as well.

  ) but for a women to have them all over her is not attractive....i think for a women to have a couple in a suddle place..( like for your partner to see or find.lol) is sexy as well...this girl in our town, has them covering her face and arms.i just think she looks scary......(i do also think that they must be done professionally and kept realistic.

  )...i know your not to judge a book by its cover but, this girl wonders why, parents will not let children to her house to play with her child?

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  Interestingly, the Awake just had an article on tattoos. Don't have it in front of me. As I recall it said, article hinted that it could be a personal decision. However, a Christian would not want a tattoo because of pagan origins. It also quoted a scripture about not making cuttings on the flesh. It said that although it is true we are not under the law of Moses, this should be a very "sobering" scripture. (I looked it up and it was right after the one about not cutting the extremity of your beard. That should be sobering too?)

  An article right next to it talked about pinatas. It mentioned that it had origins in the worship of the sun god and religious holidays. However, it was OK for Christians because people today don't usually associate the pinata with false worship.

  I thought it was interesting that in one case pagan origins meant it was not OK for Christians and in the other case it was just fine.
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  Comments You Will Not Hear At The 10-19-03 WT Study

  by blondie in

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  2. bible

  comments you will not hear at the 10-19-03 wt study

  review comments will be in black and parentheses ()

  wt quotes will be in

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  I know a way that I could save a lot of money. I could get rid of my health and life insurance.

  At our last circuit assembly, we our CO told us that some of the brothers were concerned about health insurance. He said that although it is a legitimate concern, we need to remember that we will have perfect health in the coming new world which is so close at hand. He then said that we shouldn't be overly concerned about having sufficient life insurance to protect our family as we would shortly be enjoying everlasting life in the new world.

  Lest we think that the CO came up with this idea on his own, our DO in another talk assured us that nearly every word we hear at the assembly comes from the Society. He said the outline is reviewed by 70 eyes (35 sets) (5 or 6 committees).
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  Watchtower Signs With GMCVB!

  by Voyager in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i guess the watchtower thought that they were going to hide this one in the fine print.

  the gmcvb stands for (greater madison convention & visitors bureau).

  this (bureau) is a department of government.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  This is my first post.

  Regarding planning for the future, our circuit overseer gave a talk a few weeks ago at our circuit assembly about how close we are to Armageddon, and he stated that many brothers are concerned about having adequate health insurance. "While that it is a legitimate concern, remember that we will have perfect health in the coming new order." Also he said "not to be concerned about having sufficient life insurance for your family." again because the end is so near. I wondered if this was just the CO's opinion, but our DO stated in another talk that almost everything that is said on a circuit assembly program is from the Society.