Even though I was a good dub back in 1989, I remember being surprised when I saw the announcement in the WT that the brothers in Mexico were now allowed to use the Bible, to pray, and to sing songs. I wondered why there hadn't been a letter writing campaign about it. Didn't find out until I read Ray's book.
Bonnie_Clyde
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When did JWs in Mexico stop being a "cultural organization"?
by JimmyPage inwhen did they start praying and singing songs again?
what was the reason given?
or is the situation still the same?.
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"The End is Closer Than You Think" came up at a party.
by RubaDub inwe were at a party (get-together in jw speak) and somehow the ones i was talking with changed the subject to a talk given by the co that "the end is closer than we think.".
i just sheepishly asked the group ... "i don't understand that phrase, "the end is closer than we think.
" i said my parents told me i would never go to school, then later that i would never graduate from high school, and that i would never get married.. then i mentioned my parents were expecting the end to be in 1975 ... my grandparents were expecting the end numerous times in the 1920's and 1930's.. so i very nicely asked, "isn't is more correct to say "the end is farther than we think?
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Bonnie_Clyde
I have to ask if the end is so close, why do most witnesses seldom talk about it except among themselves? I remember talking about Armageddon a long time ago when I went from door to door, but then we were instructed to just talk about the wonderful peaceful new world. I've seen some TV shows about religions that believe Armageddon is imminent and JW's are never mentioned.
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What happens when a elderly dub is put into a care home?
by highdose inspeaking from my experiance i have seen no less than 10 elderly jw's put into old age care homes and promptly forgotten about!.
no visits from their "loving shepards" no vists from their spritual family.
they were left to rot out of sight out of mind.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Well and old friend of Clyde's, who was a PO for many years and raised five children in the "truth", is in an assisted care facility right now. Other than Clyde, he only gets visits from his family, but nobody from the congregation stops by even though it is very convenient from the KH. Clyde's answer (tongue in cheek) is that he's not attending meetings (of course he can't) so why should they bother with him?
I could also go on and on about how they neglected my parents even though my father had been a long-time elder.
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Unbelievable CO Talk, scientists lie to us about earthquakes
by maninthemiddle injust when i thought this stupid belief that earthquakes went up in 1914, here it is again.
4/6/2010.
this was a co giving the talk, the same one that ended with overlapping generations.. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27642/earthquake.mp3.
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Bonnie_Clyde
What about the New Madrid earthquake in the early 1800's? It's my understanding that it changed the course of the Mississippi River and was so huge that it was felt in Washington DC and caused church bells to ring in Boston(?) or somewhere in the eastern USA. Back then it only affected a few Indians and settlers. I've heard that an earthquake of that magnitude now would be far more catastrophic than anyone in this country has ever seen.
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Watchtower Comments is producing a tribute video for Raymond Franz
by besty inwatchtower comments is producing a tribute video for raymond franz.
we want you to be a part of this.please record a brief audio statement expressing how raymond franz helped you, either personally or by reading his books crisis of conscience and in search of christian freedom.
contributors will be kept anonymous unless you state otherwise.email the audio file to [email protected].
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Bonnie_Clyde
I remember that Time article. It bothered me for years, but I kept pushing it aside. A few years later, I read an article in our local newspaper about a couple who had read Ray's C of C and left the Borg--all of their children shunned them. That bothered me too. But it was 16 years before I finally ventured onto the internet and my first search word was "Franz."
Thank you Ray Franz for all you did to open my eyes. Just wish I had listened sooner.
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Nomoreguilt is BACK!
by nomoreguilt inhey there all my dear ole friends in jwd land!
wow!, what a trip!
it's not that i haven't been thinking about all of you, just had some new adventures that i've been involved in.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Yea! I've been wondering where you've been and almost sent you an email. Glad to have you back....
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Ray Franz has had a stroke
by coffee_black injust setting the record straight.
there is another thread that notes a claim on wiki that said that ray has died.. he had a stroke yesterday, and is in the hospital.
he is still alive.
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Bonnie_Clyde
I remember reading Ray's books far into the night back in 1999. I couldn't believe the clarity and the insight of that man, and I've always wanted to meet him. Talked to him on the phone twice, the last time was last September. Yes, we also have much to thank him for and we too pray for him and his wife.
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how many of you in the USA have visited England
by RosePetal inif any body from usa have visited england i would like to know if you liked your stay.
what was your experience?
did you visit while still a dub did you visit any congregations and make any life long friends?
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Bonnie_Clyde
Rose Petal, you have a pm. I think you can view it by clicking on the icon of a letter at the top right.
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CO visit, end is nigh
by judi8751 inspoke to my jw husband today ( we dont live together), he has the co visit this week..." the end is very close now,we need to stay focused, now is not the time to be missing meetings,co was very positive, a great speaker, i sense myself that the end is just round the corner"......hmmmm i remember a co visit around 1990, i too thought the end was just around the corner, in fact my daughter would not start school lol, her son started school 2years ago.. did i miss something or do i have to wait till my grandsons kids go to school..... loools.
how could i have wasted so many years, is there a syndrome for this ????
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Bonnie_Clyde
The end came in 1975. We just didn't see it because it was invisible.
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Disfellowshipping an 80 year old man, with brain cancer, for swearing!
by James_Slash inthis happened many years ago in my old congregation.. the man, who held the position of a ministerial servant for many years had not long lost his wife in death.. obviously, tensions and the general heartbreak of what happened to him lasted for sometime.
i remember going to see him once and he was extremely depressed.. however, his son had recently moved back in with him and they had started arguing.
his son grassed on him in to the elders that his father had sworn at him in a number of arguments and he was removed as a ms. the rest is history.
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Bonnie_Clyde
I posted this topic about 4 years ago about Sister M who was disfellowshipped back in the early 60's for preferring the King James over the New World Translation. She was well into her 80's and I just loved her. I was devastated when they read the announcement, but went along with it because I thought it was the right thing to do.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/92013/1/The-DFing-of-Sister-M