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  Fred Franz: Time in Which We Are Now Interested -- 1975 lecture

  by cabasilas in

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  from internet archive:.

  "time in which we are now interested," lecture given by frederick w. franz on february 5, 1975 at the los angeles sports arena in los angeles, california.

  this was a special lecture given by fred franz (then vice president of the watchtower society and one of the main theologians of jehovah's witnesses at that time) on the 6,000 year chronology that pointed to the year 1975 as a special year marked in bible prophecy.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  The expected events for 1975 would be delayed by the "interval of time" between Adam and Eve's creation as the start of the "Seventh Creative Day" did not begin until after Eve was created.

  That's exactly what a circuit overseer told me in 1957--nine years before the Society began the 1975 teaching. I was a young teenager, and I asked the CO about the 6,000 years and if we added that to Adam's creation in 4026 B.C., wouldn't that bring us to 1975? If that guy had the "correct" understanding back in 1957, how come Freddy didn't figure it out untl 1975? And Freddy was "annointed!"

  Bonnie
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  do you miss anything from when you were a jw?

  by Newborn in

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  a few of my friends who also used to be jw's, say they miss certain things abt it...i can honestly say that i don't miss a single thing (my sister obviously who's still in but nothing else).. before i could sometimes miss having such a strong belief but that's also gone.

  i guess i've moved on big time.

  /newborn.

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  Only thng I have missed is knowing that I had the "truth." Now I ask the question that Pilate asked Jesus 2,000 years ago, "What is truth?" I've decided to stop thinking about it and just live my life.

  I do miss association with my still-JW daughter, but can't go back to the "lie."
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  Latest Special Talk in Australia

  by jwfacts in

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  no, i don't mean the visit by oprah.. there was a special talk on sunday relayed to all the aussie congs from sydney.

  apparently the speaker had an american accent, but was stationed in a latin american country.

  he was really pushing field service and pulled out the old one that: if you do not witness you are not one of jehovah's witnesses.

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  I am surprised that Oprah has not done a show on disfellowshipping. I am sure she would care about the destruction of families. Even if it was to showcase children from a few high control religions, instead of just JWs.

  Sally Jesse Raphael did just that several years ago (at least 20). The woman she interviewed had been in a congregation that I used to attend. Everybody I knew was just shocked (including myself) that she would do such a thing, telling the world how her family refused to talk to her because she divorced her husband and married her high school sweetheart. A few years later I saw her at a circuit assembly, and she was reinstated--another surprise. Apparently, it was just too much for her--not to see her children and grandchildren. Have never seen her since, but I don't go to assemblies any more.
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  2010 Partakers number is out!!!

  by Hairyhegoat in

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  hey here we go!!!.

  they will need to buy some more crackers and cheap wine for next year now.

  what are the borg going to concocked now to cover there ass with the number of morons going up again at the memorial 2010 ?.

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  Since many of the partakers are probably fake, and those who are not fake are not important anyway, why don't they just show a video of the governing body partaking of the emblems on Memorial night and let it go at that?

  Bonnie_Clyde:

  WTF: Since many are fake?

  You certainly must have meant, "since all of them are fake"

  Oh yes - ldrnomo - you and I know they are all fake. But the explanation most JW's would give is that "many are fake"--that explains the increase of numbers.
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  2010 Partakers number is out!!!

  by Hairyhegoat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey here we go!!!.

  they will need to buy some more crackers and cheap wine for next year now.

  what are the borg going to concocked now to cover there ass with the number of morons going up again at the memorial 2010 ?.

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  Since many of the partakers are probably fake, and those who are not fake are not important anyway, why don't they just show a video of the governing body partaking of the emblems on Memorial night and let it go at that?
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  KM (Elder School) Brief Highlights

  by XBEHERE in

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  besides the usual drivel there were a couple interesting things.

  1. an entire 1 hour discourse on helping our children become little innocent martyrs for the wt via.

  their flawed and unreasonable blood doctrine.

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  Parents if possible should choose good health insurance for their families.

  At the last circuit assembly I attended, the CO talked about people were "overly concerned" with health insurance. He stated, "Brothers, in the new system that is so close, we will all have perfect health."
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  JW self-defense...WT says we are too slow to use a gun!!!.......

  by oompa in

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  you gotta read this to beleive it!.....lately my mind is teaching s we had that "went beyond what is written" and this subject on self defence has cracked me up!!

  !.....you if gotta see this to believe it!....not just guns....but almost everthing is bashed...they did leave out the option of us carrying a sword o.j.

  style....or a spear.....this will make my list....(and you can have no privileges if you carry a gun at work...cop or security guard).......... *** g91 7/8 p. 12 self-defensehow far can a christian go?

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  Don't retreat...reload. - Sarah Palin
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  GB Member Barr dies

  by Red Piller in

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  heard this today from a reliable source.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  7 members left. 4 are needed for a 2/3 vote.

  I think they would need 5 for a 2/3 vote. 4 would only give them 57%.
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  When was the last 7-Day Convention held?

  by VM44 in

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  does anyone know when the watchtower held the last 7-day convention?.

  these conventions lasted from 9am to 9pm every day for a whole week, except perhaps for sunday.. they were mostly held in open-air stadiums and people had to endure the burning heat during the day, and the cold at night.. it took endurance to sit throughout the whole thing.. making people attend those things really was an expression of love from the watchtower!

  did the watchtower drop right away to the 3-day program, or were 5 day conventions held for awhile?.

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  1969...... my sister was a toddler and Mom had her on a leash.

  That brings back a memory. My son was two years old, and I also had a leash. Without it, I would have lost him for sure. He had a way of slipping away. He loved the leash when he was home, but hated it at the assembly. Thankfully, he hates assemblies to this day.
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  When was the last 7-Day Convention held?

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone know when the watchtower held the last 7-day convention?.

  these conventions lasted from 9am to 9pm every day for a whole week, except perhaps for sunday.. they were mostly held in open-air stadiums and people had to endure the burning heat during the day, and the cold at night.. it took endurance to sit throughout the whole thing.. making people attend those things really was an expression of love from the watchtower!

  did the watchtower drop right away to the 3-day program, or were 5 day conventions held for awhile?.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Atlanta, Georgia, in 1969 for me. A week of stifling heat and droning talks. Finally Clyde said he'd had enough and we missed the last day and drove up into the mountains of North Carolina.

  Bonnie