Clyde and I left the organization because of conduct--the conduct of the Watchtower--joining the UN, forcing families to shun their relatives, the blood transfusion ban, their egotistical bantering that we had to give them our total obedience, their putting a guilt trip on young people if they went to college....I could go on.
Bonnie_Clyde
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JWs don't leave the organization over doctrine
by doublelife incan anyone help me with a quote from a publication studied in '09 that had a box that said jws leave over selfish reasons but not over doctrine?
i think it was studied in the bs but i can't find it and i already tried the search feature.
i remember someone posted about it at the time it was studied.
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Question from readers - Generation
by Albert Einstein inwt question from readers wt 11/15/2011.
is it proper to use the term "iam 3rd generation witness" in the light of the new understnding of the term "generation"?.
no, it is unscriptural now.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Hey Fatfreek - I had a Hattie in my geneology who started it all with her sister in the early 1900's--I know it was before 1910 because the sister died in 1910. Some of my relatives have children who are now 7th generation witnesses. Brother John Bohnet (mentioned in the Proclaimer's book) is the one who witnessed to them.
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A talk by Bro. Butts emailed to me: His experiences are such BS
by Magwitch indo you think any of the following experiences are true?
they are so far fetched they are almost humorous.
title: let's all make it to the finish line...[sr from patterson] bro.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Another BS experience I heard at a meeting from a visiting speaker. I think it was in Africa. A young man living with his parents accepts "Bible truth" and his parents throw him out of the house. He has no way of support, but decides to pioneer. He doesn't have anything to eat for an entire week. Soon he is invited to serve in a local branch home. He feels guilty about having three meals a day, so decides voluntarily to only eat one meal a day.
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Another JW Report from Haiti - this is sick....
by Bonnie_Clyde inhttp://www.ultimatebiblereferencelibrary.com/haiti_disaster__17.1.10_.pdf .
two paragraphs were really bad:.
"we suspect not a few of our young brothers and sisters attending universities may have died when those buildings crashed to the grounds with everyone in them.
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Bonnie_Clyde
http://www.ultimatebiblereferencelibrary.com/Haiti_Disaster__17.1.10_.pdf
Two paragraphs were really bad:
"We suspect not a few of our young brothers and sisters attending universities may have died when those buildings crashed to the grounds with everyone in them. One nice experience--one sister was scheduled to attend a lecture on psychology and she decided she did not want to hear that stuff. As soon as she got outside, the entire structure collapsed before her eyes!
Visible proof where 'higher learning' takes you--right into the ground!! Now if any want to attend university--they will have to move to another country--as all their buildings crashed to the ground!! And believe me--their parents will work to send them there--that is the god they have confidence in--Jehovah is a sideline one!"
Later it mentions the DR branch sent them a doctor and an emergency clinic has been set up in the class room behind the assembly hall. I wonder where and when that doctor got his education and why Jehovah didn't strike him dead for attending classes.
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strange experience by a Br. from the GB at assembly
by inbetween inwas on summer, experience went like that:.
"a couple from russia, sold even their house in order to be able to attend an assembly in germany.....".
basically no more information given.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Hey - Clyde quit his job because they refused to give him time off to go the assembly. That's what we were encouraged to do. Of course.... that was before we were married and had kids. He was young, strong, and work was plentiful, so he just got a new job when he got back. I'd shudder to think of trying that now.
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WT study article Jan 17 2010
by Mickey mouse in"treasure your place in the congregation.".
dozy did this exercise previously but i thought paragraph 5 was worth looking at agan.. let's change the perspective to the first person:.
"the spirit that now operates in the sons of disobedience" is so widespread that it is like the air we breathe.
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Bonnie_Clyde
From Clyde: "Kiss their ring."
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Song Book changes - the 'real' reason behind them - EYE OPENING
by EndofMysteries init's very interesting comparing things that are removed.
for one, new world order and new world, new order, all being eliminated from everything.
just research nwo, "new world order", etc, to see.
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Here are some notes a JW sent me re comments about the new song book at the annual meeting.
"It was announced a few weeks ago that during Annual Meeting we would use the new song books for the first time, so that was great. But there was another surprise for us... Instead of singing along to pre-recorded music there was a live chorus! This was a group of about 30 brothers and sisters on stage that sung along as a sister played the song through a piano (also on stage). They were directed by Brother David Splane of the Governing Body.. The chorus would sing the song and then Brother Splane would ask us to sing. It was very beautiful hearing the new songs, especially when the chorus would sing (they were amazing!). Brother Splane mentioned that the Governing Body was very involved in the making of the new song book.They had to approve of every song and every stanza.Then the Brother said, "If the Governing Body was involved in the making of this book, isn't it in reality spiritual food?...What should be our attitude towards it?" That really got everyone to see that singing is an important part of our worship to Jehovah."
The whole reason for the new book was to glorify the GB.
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Bohnet also grew super beans...
by Aussie Oz ingarden pea-beans.
dear brother russell:-- wt1912.
last spring a brother in the west sent me a supply of pea-beans,.
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Hope you don't think I'm too much off topic. Bohnet was largely responsible for my family being involved in the cult. It was around the turn of the 20th century. His proselytizing got two great great aunts involved, then it was my grandmother, then three of her children, including my mother, myself plus numerous cousins, and now it's several of my cousins' grandchildren. So there are at least 6 generations and there may be a 7th generation by now. Talk about the difficulty of breaking away from all these family bonds! It's been going on for over 100 years
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The look in my mothers eyes
by Sour Grapes ini asked my mother today, who is in her late.
80's, if she ever thought that she would ever.
get this old and see 2010 on this side of the.
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I was 56 years old when I started my research on the Internet. I delayed for several months, thinking...I'm too old to leave now. then I asked myself, would it be easier now or 10, 20 or 30 years from now? I'm so glad I did even though I suffered a lot of indignities from my extended family. At least my immediate family is intact and we are closer than ever. It's been slow, but Clyde and I are meeting new friends and new ways to enjoy our remaining years.
Has anyone watched the movie, Bucket List. I need to start my own list of things I would like to do before I kick the bucket.
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1975 For Deniers
by Farkel in1975 for deniers.
most of today's jws were not members in 1975 or in the 9 years prior to 1975, so they were not eyewitnesses to what really went on during that period.
i was a pioneer in that period, and i was an eyewitness to what went on.. those jws who are still active today and who were around in that period will typically say it was the "brothers" who "ran ahead of jehovah" and "read more into" the 1975 prediction than what was actually stated.
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I distinctly remember our CO, John Caister, almost shout from the platform, "The Society was not wrong about 1914, and it will NOT be wrong about 1975!" A few months later on his next visit, he said exactly the same thing. That was about 1969-1970.
Many old timers are the victims of a disease called "collective amnesia."