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1975 And The Life Everlasting Book.

by Bangalore in

found these on perimeno's site.. .

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bangalore.

Bonnie_Clyde

BluesBrother: Sorry I can't agree!

This is the book that started it all:

1963 "All Scripture Is Inspired of God and Beneficial" was the original mention of 1975,

on pages 286-287, in the 1990 reprint a small note was added about the time of Eve's making.

From this my wife and others in the cong during 1963-64 were sure 1975 was the time of Armageddon.

Foykc - I have the original "All Scripture Is Inspired" book, and I know it didn't cause anyone (at least in our area) to think that Armageddon was coming in 1975. It states on page 286:

"Of what significance is this today? It means that by the fall of 1963 mankind has dwelt upon this earth 5,988 years. Does this mean , then that by 1963 we had progressed 5,988 years into the 'day' on which Jehovah 'has been resting from all his work'? No, for the creation of Adam does not correspond with the beginning of Jehovah's rest day. Following Adam's creation, and still within the sixth creative day, Jehovah appears to have been forming further animal and bird creations. Also, he had Adam name the animals, which would take some time, and he proceeded to create Eve. Whatever time elapsed between Adam's creation and the end of the 'sixth day' must be subtracted from the 5,988 years in order to give the actual length of time from the beginning of the 'seventh day' until now. It does no good to use Bible chronology for speculating on dates that are still future in the stream of time."

If anything, this book was suggesting that the end could be many more years beyond 1975.

The hoopla about 1975 didn't begin until 1966. I couldn't believe it when three years after 1963 they changed their mind and decided it was OK to speculate.

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Is there anything new in the elder's manual?

by Mickey mouse in

it doesn't seem like it.

why bother reprinting?.

Bonnie_Clyde

So on what grounds were people DF'd for masturbation?

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Is there anything new in the elder's manual?

by Mickey mouse in

it doesn't seem like it.

why bother reprinting?.

Bonnie_Clyde

Chapter 5 (page 59) - Isn't this different?

6. Self-abuse, or masturbation of oneself, is not

por·nei' a.

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KS10-Chapter Seven Discussion

by yknot in

chapter 7 from 'shepherding the flock of god' published by the wts of penn/ny is part of their worldwide bible educational work.

the wts is a non-profit whose publications are not for sale but are freely given to those who show 'genuine' interest..... while not required, a donation is always joyfully accepted .

while admittedly my feelings were hurt by "the boys" yanking my 4shared files.. anywho.... the other part of my brain says 'it ain't personal' and just a game.....hey yall get out of 'whatever' your normal task is right!!

Bonnie_Clyde

Pardon my ignorance - I tried downloading the file from Send Space, then it asks for my email address. Do I have to give it? There doesn't seem to be any other option.

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Latest SAD--More Higher Ed Bashing. Did you know it's one of Satan's False Refuges?

by Cadellin in

well, folks, this little mermaid just got back from the sad she had to attend w/her husband so as to keep a measure of peace (we're in the process of working out compromises...you know how it goes) i was pretty mad by the end of the day (thank god it ended at 4:00) mostly because i learned some new things that i would never have guessed in a million years.. did you know that satan is setting up artificial "refuges" as a counterfeit to jehovah's "true refuge"which is...his organization???

now satan's "false refuges" are pretty damn bad, like, for instance, "independent thinking.

" no, siree bob, we don't want none of that!!

Bonnie_Clyde

MMXIV and St. George - you are now financially secure, but you are not in the "truth."

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More KS-10 'Shepherding' instruction LTR

by yknot in

while i at this moment don't have my hands on a scan and very dear 'anonymouse brother' wishes for the forum to know as a 'heads up'!.

here is the 'gist' of the ltr until we get an actual scan ..... apparently some elders want to have their books spiral bound.

the branch has sent out specific instructions that it can be done only by an elder for other elders.

Bonnie_Clyde

A baptized brother can perform the binding work if an elder is watching him. However "outside companies, unbelivers, and sisters are not permitted to perform this work".

Interesting that they would allow a non-elder (baptized) brother do the binding as long as there is an elder watching but not even a baptized sister would be allowed to do it.

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2011 Theocratic Ministry School Schedule (TMS)

by Inside Man in

(rs p. 210 para.

(rs p. 211 para.

Bonnie_Clyde

Thanks for the schedule. Now I can keep abreast of the Bible reading.

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was there a 1975 "scare"

by Lotus65 in

ive heard through different research ive done along with people ive talked too that there was a 1975 "scare" in which the time was supposed and the end was at hand

is that true

Bonnie_Clyde

No wonder the Witnesses deny it happened. Many today just do not want to remember. Talk about having a selective memory

Another term could be "Collective Amnesia."

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Selling homes and property - pre-1975

by Bonnie_Clyde in

jw
friends

i just had a discussion with a relative who attended the district convention.

he gave me the booklet, "keep on the watch.

" according to him, the speaker who introduced the booklet talked about the people who were stumbled because of the change in understanding regarding "this generation.

Bonnie_Clyde

In hindsight do you regret having this conversation with your son in law?

Yes and no. Up until that day, I had kept my mouth shut, but I think eventually something would have come out, and the results would have been the same. A good thing that came from it was that the son mentioned above and his wife both left the borg (our other son was already on his way out). Clyde and I both have a even stronger relationship with them. We all live nearby and we see each other almost every day, looking after each other's needs. We know that our grandchildren will never have to endure the torture of growing up in the "truth."

But there isn't a day that goes by that I think about our daughter. I don't have any idea how she is doing. And I have a touch of guilt knowing that I raised her in the religion. I guess that's why I keep coming on this site, knowing that others have had similar experiences.

Bonnie

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Selling homes and property - pre-1975

by Bonnie_Clyde in

jw
friends

i just had a discussion with a relative who attended the district convention.

he gave me the booklet, "keep on the watch.

" according to him, the speaker who introduced the booklet talked about the people who were stumbled because of the change in understanding regarding "this generation.

Bonnie_Clyde

I didn't reveal it at the time, but the relative I had this conversation with was actually my son-in-law and my daughter. The result of our 10-minute conversation was that I completely lost the good relationship I previously had with them along many other relatives including my father. I have not seen or talked to my daughter since my father's funeral in 2007 even though we only live 10 miles from one another. Even though I occasionally send an email or a card, I get complete silence.

In a conversation with her brother (my son), she brought up what I said about 1975, and my son reminded her that he remembered when he was 7 years old (1974), she told him she wanted to get baptized before 1975 as she knew Armageddon was coming (she was age 9). She denied ever saying that.

Bonnie, AKA Bonnie_Clyde

Bonnie_Clyde

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