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"Historical" Announcement This Week?

by headisspinning in

my daughter asked if anyone has heard anything about a 'big announcement' being made sometime this week in congregations in canada and possibly beyond... in her words "it's like a biggggg long thing, they cut out part of the book study for it and people heard it was a historical thing"... any ideas?

could it be the mexican branch closing or the theme of the convention?

or something else?

Bonnie_Clyde

"I was listening to JT,s podcast recently on Critical Thinkers site and on one episode, he was talking about how the Watchtower in the next 5 years will be making a change in the Blood issue because of all the lawsuits. Now that would be historical if they did remove the ban on blood, and maybe a lot of witnesses would finally wake up."

If this were to happen, maybe they would have to pull up the WT article from 1998 about "Feelings of having suffered needlessly" and how the brothers who had to go to prison because of the alternative service ruling were told to be happy that they suffered even though the rule changed later. Maybe we should be happy that our loved ones died because of the blood ban because they were being faithful at the time even if the rule changed later.

That article from 1998 is what got me thinking...

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A better way to ask questions - Anybody remember "Amazing"?

by Bonnie_Clyde in

first of all, i wonder whatever happened to jim whitney (aka amazing).

when i first joined this forum, i remember being so impressed by the way he got his family out.

instead of knocking the organization head-on, he would ask questions that can't be answered during his family study, such as, "how would you answer someone if they said we were false prophets?

Bonnie_Clyde

First of all, I wonder whatever happened to Jim Whitney (AKA Amazing). When I first joined this forum, I remember being so impressed by the way he got his family out. Instead of knocking the organization head-on, he would ask questions that can't be answered during his family study, such as, "How would you answer someone if they said we were false prophets?" Or, "How can be show someone that Jehovah is using the Governing Body to lead his people." Or, what would you say to a doctor who asks why we can accept blood fractions but not a blood transfusion." Or, "What would we answer someone who claims the Watchtower predicted 1914 and 1975 as the year for Armageddon?" Then he would ask the family to do some research during the week. His method worked!

For those who are wanting to fade, wouldn't this be a better way to ask the elders without raising suspicion? Always throw the question back to a 3rd party. I notice a lot of the posters like to ask these questions head-one, and it very seldom works.

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Watchtower April, 2017 Overview

by Listener in

i'll start with the first study article.. this study article deals with vows made to jehovah.

three main vows are discussed.. 1) your dedication to jehovah.

we are told that it is not possible to claim that our baptism was not valid .

Bonnie_Clyde

Just thought I would revive an old thread about the marriage vows from 50+ years ago. I believe it was in the vows that Clyde and I took. "Divine termination of the marital arrangement preceded "according to God's marital arrangement."

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/104926/divine-termination-marital-arrangement-need-old-timer

I think it was referring to the possibility that someday in eternity God might terminate marriages, but maybe the Society could say it would allow for terminating the marriage now if a spouse becomes an apostate. Just saying....

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Quotation in book - what are your thoughts

by Tallon in

been away for a couple of months as i felt that i needed a break.

during this period i completed reading a book (fiction), titled; conclave - authored by robert harris.

there is a very interesting sentence in the book which got me thinking.

Bonnie_Clyde

Back when Clyde and I were still attending, I remember after a WT study article about humility, that Clyde mentioned to one of the brothers, "I am so proud that I'm humble." I think he got the point.

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To the brother who called in sick after Thanksgiving vacation

by schnell in

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thanks.. no really, thank you.. you decided to drive down to la with your wife and kids to be with extended family and eat a great big meal on thanksgiving.

that's awesome.

no, really, i hope you had great thanksgiving.. then you drove back up here, and that's a good day's drive so you were pretty tired.

Bonnie_Clyde

Hi Ben - did you ever get you dental appointment changed to December?

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pre 1981 Disassociation rules.

by Aussie Oz in

can anybody point me to actual written society instruction pre 1981, regarding not shunning da ones?.

i know they included shunning as of the wt sept 15 1981, but was before that time purely an unwritten practice or what?.

oz.

Bonnie_Clyde

I'm almost certain that Ray Franz wrote the August 1, 1974, article about showing "common courtesy and consideration." I remember we had drywall man who was working on our house back in 1979. My father (a super elder) was talking to him and found out he was disfellowshipped. It didn't phase him a bit, he just commented to me later that we just couldn't talk about anything spiritual. The rules changed in 1981.

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To the brother who called in sick after Thanksgiving vacation

by schnell in

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friends

thanks.. no really, thank you.. you decided to drive down to la with your wife and kids to be with extended family and eat a great big meal on thanksgiving.

that's awesome.

no, really, i hope you had great thanksgiving.. then you drove back up here, and that's a good day's drive so you were pretty tired.

Bonnie_Clyde

I suggest you call the dental office on Monday and ask to be placed on a waiting list. If someone cancels their December appointment, you might be in luck. It worked for me.

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Were you aware of the shunning policy when becoming a JW

by UnshackleTheChains in

for those who became jws, were you fully aware of the societys cruel shunning policy whilst studying?

i absolutely had no idea such a policy existed until years later.

it really only hit home when reading the horrendous stories on the internet around 2002. .

Bonnie_Clyde

It wasn't always so harsh. Late 50's and 60's, as I recall, we could speak to a disfellowshipped person, just couldn't discuss anything spiritual...that wasn't hard. Also, they could fellowship with their relatives.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-27-2016 WT Study (CHILDREN FAITH)

by blondie in

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blondie’s highlights from the november 27, 2016 wt study (september 2016) (parents build children faith).

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-september-2016/.

excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

Bonnie_Clyde

6 As a teacher, Jesus reached hearts because he loved Jehovah, God’s Word, and people.

Jesus was only mentioned one time, Jehovah about 16 times. Shouldn't they be putting more emphasis than that on Jehovah's son?

Thanks for your comments, Blondie.

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Christian Longo on death row – is he up for a new trial?

by Bonnie_Clyde in

for those who don’t remember, longo was a life-long witness (even a one-time ministerial servant) who strangled and/or drowned his wife, mary jane, and their three children, zachery, sadie and madison.

longo has been on death row in marion county, oregon, since 2003.. http://www.biography.com/people/christian-longo.

well, yesterday i talked to a woman who works with one of mary jane’s sisters who told me that longo was coming up for a new trial.

Bonnie_Clyde

darkspilver - I believe it is legit. Mary Jane's sister's name is Jennifer. I plan to make a donation toward the fundraiser.

Anyone who thinks they could have any sympathy for that jerk should read the link that I attached. After the murders he used a fake credit card number to buy a ticket to Cancun, posed as a New York journalist, and shacked up with a German photographer. I think he was with her when the authorities busted him. He never showed any remorse. I personally would have no trouble flipping the switch.

Bonnie_Clyde

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