Years ago the meeting at our hall was actually 2 hours and 15 minutes (maybe 2 hours and 10 minutes). The Ministry School had to be a full hour, the Service meeting had to be a full hour, and we had to allow extra time for song and prayer, including the middle song. So the meeting started at 7:25 p.m. and ended about 9:40 p.m. That was really rough on the school kids. We would get home at 10:15 p.m. at the earliest.
Bonnie_Clyde
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Is the Mid Week Meeting shorter or longer than before they stopped doing the book study at homes?
by Iamallcool inany takers?.
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1914 in the revised NWT ?
by Bonnie_Clyde injust awhile ago i saw someone mentioned that 1914 made it's way into the revised nwt.
if this is true, will someone tell me where?.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Just awhile ago I saw someone mentioned that 1914 made it's way into the revised NWT. If this is true, will someone tell me where?
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Watchtower Annulled My Baptism
by RICHT incontrary to popular belief you can have your baptism annulled as i did by my local elders after my judicial hearing.. the watchtower of 1964 page 126 first paragraph clearly states that anyone that was committing a gross sin before, during and after their baptism is void.
in order to get right with the lord you would need to be re-baptised.
err no thanks, i'm not a believer!!!!.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Don't forget back in the 60's, you didn't have to go through all the questions with an elder before baptism. Basically all you had to do was show up. A person could have claimed ignorance.
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Bro Knorrs Notes RE Disfellowshipping & Two Witness Rule
by pale.emperor inhi guys.
a fellow ex jw shared this with me.
haven't time to read them yet (i'm using my phone to go on internet).
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Bonnie_Clyde
It appears legit to me. Three things I noticed.
1) It was a doctor in the congregation who gave her treatment and who seduced her, but she wouldn't tell them who the doctor was? Seems like they could figure it out. How many doctors would there be in a congregation? Most congregations don't have any.
2) "If guilty of adultery before 1947, don't dig in." What happened in 1947?
3) They were calling the congregation a "company" as late as 1951?
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"Historical" Announcement This Week?
by headisspinning inmy daughter asked if anyone has heard anything about a 'big announcement' being made sometime this week in congregations in canada and possibly beyond... in her words "it's like a biggggg long thing, they cut out part of the book study for it and people heard it was a historical thing"... any ideas?
could it be the mexican branch closing or the theme of the convention?
or something else?
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Bonnie_Clyde
"I was listening to JT,s podcast recently on Critical Thinkers site and on one episode, he was talking about how the Watchtower in the next 5 years will be making a change in the Blood issue because of all the lawsuits. Now that would be historical if they did remove the ban on blood, and maybe a lot of witnesses would finally wake up."
If this were to happen, maybe they would have to pull up the WT article from 1998 about "Feelings of having suffered needlessly" and how the brothers who had to go to prison because of the alternative service ruling were told to be happy that they suffered even though the rule changed later. Maybe we should be happy that our loved ones died because of the blood ban because they were being faithful at the time even if the rule changed later.
That article from 1998 is what got me thinking...
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A better way to ask questions - Anybody remember "Amazing"?
by Bonnie_Clyde infirst of all, i wonder whatever happened to jim whitney (aka amazing).
when i first joined this forum, i remember being so impressed by the way he got his family out.
instead of knocking the organization head-on, he would ask questions that can't be answered during his family study, such as, "how would you answer someone if they said we were false prophets?
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First of all, I wonder whatever happened to Jim Whitney (AKA Amazing). When I first joined this forum, I remember being so impressed by the way he got his family out. Instead of knocking the organization head-on, he would ask questions that can't be answered during his family study, such as, "How would you answer someone if they said we were false prophets?" Or, "How can be show someone that Jehovah is using the Governing Body to lead his people." Or, what would you say to a doctor who asks why we can accept blood fractions but not a blood transfusion." Or, "What would we answer someone who claims the Watchtower predicted 1914 and 1975 as the year for Armageddon?" Then he would ask the family to do some research during the week. His method worked!
For those who are wanting to fade, wouldn't this be a better way to ask the elders without raising suspicion? Always throw the question back to a 3rd party. I notice a lot of the posters like to ask these questions head-one, and it very seldom works.
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Watchtower April, 2017 Overview
by Listener ini'll start with the first study article.. this study article deals with vows made to jehovah.
three main vows are discussed.. 1) your dedication to jehovah.
we are told that it is not possible to claim that our baptism was not valid .
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Just thought I would revive an old thread about the marriage vows from 50+ years ago. I believe it was in the vows that Clyde and I took. "Divine termination of the marital arrangement preceded "according to God's marital arrangement."
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/104926/divine-termination-marital-arrangement-need-old-timer
I think it was referring to the possibility that someday in eternity God might terminate marriages, but maybe the Society could say it would allow for terminating the marriage now if a spouse becomes an apostate. Just saying....
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Quotation in book - what are your thoughts
by Tallon inbeen away for a couple of months as i felt that i needed a break.
during this period i completed reading a book (fiction), titled; conclave - authored by robert harris.
there is a very interesting sentence in the book which got me thinking.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Back when Clyde and I were still attending, I remember after a WT study article about humility, that Clyde mentioned to one of the brothers, "I am so proud that I'm humble." I think he got the point.
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To the brother who called in sick after Thanksgiving vacation
by schnell inthanks.. no really, thank you.. you decided to drive down to la with your wife and kids to be with extended family and eat a great big meal on thanksgiving.
that's awesome.
no, really, i hope you had great thanksgiving.. then you drove back up here, and that's a good day's drive so you were pretty tired.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Hi Ben - did you ever get you dental appointment changed to December?
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pre 1981 Disassociation rules.
by Aussie Oz incan anybody point me to actual written society instruction pre 1981, regarding not shunning da ones?.
i know they included shunning as of the wt sept 15 1981, but was before that time purely an unwritten practice or what?.
oz.
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I'm almost certain that Ray Franz wrote the August 1, 1974, article about showing "common courtesy and consideration." I remember we had drywall man who was working on our house back in 1979. My father (a super elder) was talking to him and found out he was disfellowshipped. It didn't phase him a bit, he just commented to me later that we just couldn't talk about anything spiritual. The rules changed in 1981.