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  Am I wrong or right please clarify if you know

  by Skeptical78 in

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  i recently became aware of the new light.

  please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?

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  AnnOMaly

  I was just about to post something similar, Apognophos.
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  The Judicial Committee videos in english

  by confusedandalone in

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  not sure if this has been posted but the jwsurvey site received the videos in english from someone.. this crap is pathetic to watch.

  how to counsel someone who is suicidal... really.

  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked.

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  AnnOMaly

  NO doctor or professional counsellor was recommended.

  No. They made no reference to professional help.

  nothing in the video, nor at the elders' school where this was first presented, even hinted at directing her to professional help.

  I suspected as much
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  The Judicial Committee videos in english

  by confusedandalone in

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  not sure if this has been posted but the jwsurvey site received the videos in english from someone.. this crap is pathetic to watch.

  how to counsel someone who is suicidal... really.

  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked.

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  AnnOMaly

  I could only watch a snippet or two. They made the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end! The emotionless, clichéd, "We commend you for coming to us" (pt. 1) - ugh. Then I zipped through bits of the Suicidal Widow one and got to the part where she's just told the elder she wants to gas herself with the car exhaust and the elder nods with a fake-looking smile and says, "Thank you for feeling comfortable enough to tell us that." Both attempts to be sympathetic or somehow supportive come over so patronizing, insincere and ... something ...

  ... THAT'S IT: hypnotic. That's why my neck hairs stand on end. Brr.

  Can anyone tell me if the elders at any time advise the suicidal sister to see a doctor or professional counsellor?
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  Syncis....sounds like another MLM scheme

  by whathehadas in

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  my sister who is 26 and a jw, recently quit her job to join this "company" that helps people invest for retirement.

  she has a masters and was working in education.

  now she's sold on syncis.

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  AnnOMaly

  anyone remember Shaklee?

  Yep.

  Lisa Rose has pretty much summed up the whole MLM thing. The products can be good (I still regularly buy some from one MLM company), but the business ... pht ... most end up making a loss (despite the perks), especially if they keep reworking the business plan so that the ones at the top cream off more commission at the expense of the lower levels.
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  607 vs 587 BC for Spanish Speakers

  by Londo111 in

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  youtuber laverdadde laverdad is redoing the series on 607 bc in spanish.

  although i don't understand the language, it seems to far exceed the original in quality.

  im amazed at the time and effort and love he has poured into this.

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  AnnOMaly

  I watched the first one. (I don't understand Spanish either but got the gist.) It looks very well done. Hats off to both you and LaVerdadDe LaVerdad!
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  Am I wrong or right please clarify if you know

  by Skeptical78 in

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  i recently became aware of the new light.

  please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?

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  AnnOMaly

  The thought occurred to me as well, sir82.
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  Am I wrong or right please clarify if you know

  by Skeptical78 in

  1. watchtower
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  i recently became aware of the new light.

  please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?

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  AnnOMaly

  Russell did not proclaim that 1914 was the end of the world or Armageddon as some of you foolishly indicate ...

  Oh dear. billy, you're looking like an idiot. Have you even looked at his Studies in the Scriptures? I'm guessing 'no.'
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 02-09-2014 WT Study (QUICKLY SHAKEN)

  by blondie in

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  the wts?.

  we request of you not to be quickly shaken from your reason.2 thess.

  (1 tim.

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  AnnOMaly

  The first two paragraphs alone got my back up and I couldn't continue. 'The media and internet tell untruths about JWs and deceive the gullible.' What about the WT publications with their own loyal readership?

  God's Kingdom Has Approached (1973) chap. 17 p. 353-4 par. 45-47 The “Slave” Who Lived to See the “Sign”

  The eight-day general convention held at Cedar Point, Ohio, on September 1-8, 1919, was a notification to all the world that the invisibly present Lord Jesus Christ was regathering his faithful “sheep.” It indicated to the world who it was that the returned Lord Jesus had found to be his “faithful and discreet slave” class. This made the “slave” class happy. It meant their being retained in the service of their heavenly Master. ...

  ... APPOINTED OVER ALL THE MASTER’S BELONGINGS

  47 The Lord Jesus pronounced the “faithful and discreet slave” happy because of what awaited him as a reward for his doing as his master appointed him to do. He gets a promotion, with larger responsibilities toward the master to whom he is so faithful. ...

  Never true, either under the old understanding (even the Bible Students knew nothing about a slave 'class' until 1927) or the new one (there was never a promotion in 1919). Which category for this one? Hoax? Scam? Deception? Lie?

  Organized to Do Jehovah's Will (2005), p. 18

  WHY TRUST "THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE"

  There are many reasons to have complete trust in the slave class. First and foremost, Jesus has appointed them over all his precious "belongings." This is a clear indication that he has complete trust in them. [italics in the original]

  Not true. Which category? Hoax? Scam? Deception? Lie?

  w11 11/1 p. 28 When Was Ancient Jerusalem Destroyed?—Part Two

  [N. 18a on VAT 4956] ... Though the cuneiform sign for the moon is clear and unambiguous, some of the signs for the names of the planets and their positions are unclear. (Mesopotamian Planetary Astronomy—Astrology, by David Brown, published 2000, pages 53-57) Because of this, the planetary observations are open to speculation and to several different interpretations.

  Not true. Brown's reference indicates otherwise. Both WT articles are peppered with various untruths and misrepresentations of the facts. 607 BCE as the date of Jerusalem's fall by Nebuchadnezzar is demonstrably untrue. So which category do these WT articles fall into? Hoax? Scam? Deception? Lie?

  g94 11/8 p. 10 The Real Significance of 1914

  AS INDICATED on page 4, “this magazine builds confidence in the Creator’s promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away.”

  No doubt many of our readers find that statement surprising. ...

  ... This time of the end is, however, to be a relatively short period—stretching over one generation. (Luke 21:31, 32) The fact that we are now 80 years beyond 1914 indicates that we can soon expect the deliverance that God’s Kingdom will bring.

  'Creator's promise'? The one generation who actually saw the events of 1914 would not pass away? The same generation that's now dead? How short is 'short'? 20 years? 100?

  Which category would this fall into? Hoax? Scam? Deception? Lie?

  These are a mere sampling. Before damning the media and internet (or 'apostate' boogeymen) for any real or perceived untruths, first get your own house in order, Watchtower!
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  Am I wrong or right please clarify if you know

  by Skeptical78 in

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  i recently became aware of the new light.

  please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?

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  AnnOMaly

  He seems to have muddled all sorts. A lot to untangle.

  Seeing as he's admitted that the c&p is NOT his own research, like you, I would like him to present his own findings. Maybe we can help him ;-)
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  Am I wrong or right please clarify if you know

  by Skeptical78 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently became aware of the new light.

  please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?

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  AnnOMaly

  However isn't it ALL redundant when the actual date if 1914 came about from a measurement of Gods stone witness... Excuse me... The satanically inspired pyramid of Giza ?

  Skeptical78 (welcome, btw), the measurements of the Great Pyramid were thought to corroborate the Bible prophecies and arithmetic leading to 1914. The Bible number-crunching came first and remained after 'God's stone witness' was declared (by Rutherford) as Satanic.

  Jeffro, isn't billy mixing up Storrs with Barbour too? It's hard to get the sense of what he was saying.

  billy, perhaps you can elucidate?