Cross-referencing: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/265547/1/Jan-2014-WT-study-more-vomit
The thread includes some comments on this fifth article.
so the wt states "the horsemen have made their appearance".
in 1914, jesus christ is pictured as riding a white horse-was given his heavenly crown.
rev.
Cross-referencing: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/265547/1/Jan-2014-WT-study-more-vomit
The thread includes some comments on this fifth article.
do you have questions about or want to understand evolution?
it is a difficult concept to communicate and so if it is not explained well , it is understandable that we would dismiss it.. i sincerely want to talk with people who want to learn more or see what all the fuss is about.
we are all learning and increasing our knowledge all the time and it is good to go over facts with critical eye.. evolution we can discuss, looking at the foundational facts and evidence, one at a time for you to go and check, agree or disagree with and return.. no pressure to accept it, you can decide for yourself, also no mocking etc of what you have to say.. .
My son put me on to this a while ago. As a newbie to the subject I found it helpful.
alan feuerbacher has written a tremendous critique of the march 2014 awake!, which contains a grossly dishonest discussion on creation.
the pdf file can be downloaded from awake_march_2014_creation_critique.pdf.
it highlights watchtower use of poor and contradictory reasoning..
Thank you jwfacts and AlanF. It's a keeper.
this was meant to have nice inserted pictures and tidy hyperlinks but the forum's being glitchy today.
so unfortunately it's going to be a messy post where you're going to have to exercise your tapping fingers and click on the links to the pics to see what i'm referring to.
sorry about that.. in the article recently studied "do this in remembrance of me" (w13 12/15), there is a box on p. 23 giving the date of this year's memorial and how that date is arrived at.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2013926.
Overkill, I know, but FWIW, another chart:
Israel fell into the orange area which, according to the legend, meant the March 31 crescent was "visible to the naked eye under perfect conditions." This chart probably wouldn't have been available to the researchers at the Writing Department when the article was put together, but a pdf showing new crescent visibility in Mecca (slightly east of Jerusalem in longitude) would have been available from the same astro.ukho.gov.uk site.
this was meant to have nice inserted pictures and tidy hyperlinks but the forum's being glitchy today.
so unfortunately it's going to be a messy post where you're going to have to exercise your tapping fingers and click on the links to the pics to see what i'm referring to.
sorry about that.. in the article recently studied "do this in remembrance of me" (w13 12/15), there is a box on p. 23 giving the date of this year's memorial and how that date is arrived at.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2013926.
*** w90 2/15 p. 15 par. 25 From Seder to Salvation ***
"The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses establishes the date for the Lord’s Evening Meal in line with the ancient method. Nisan 1 is determined by when the new moon nearest the spring equinox can likely be observed at sunset in Jerusalem. Counting 14 days from that brings one to Nisan 14, which usually corresponds to the day of the full moon. (See The Watchtower of June 15, 1977, pages 383-4.)"
i have some ideas, but want more to choose from..
I like wasblind's line.
i have some ideas, but want more to choose from..
nonjwspouse: BTW Ann what is the correct date? I have been reading the chromicle project sometimes and caught the date discrepancy. But can't find the particulars just now.
Following the JW method and interpretation, the Memorial 2014 should really be held on Sunday April 13.
Shameless plug for thread: CLICK HERE.
i have some ideas, but want more to choose from..
I can't take that. It has the wrong date.
i have been dropping comments to a few re some classic old beliefs and teachings etc... and when asked "where did you read that, or how come you are saying such and such?
" i have replied "well, you remember we have often been told to study and research our old 'theocratic history' and 'old gems' of material?....
now though i have been challenged to prove where this has been printed!.
*** Ministry School (2002) p. 21 Apply Yourself to Reading ***
WHAT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR READING PROGRAM
• Is the Bible at the top of your list?
• Do you regularly read the Watchtower and Awake! magazines?
• Do you read new Bible study literature soon after it is received?
• When given your copy of Our Kingdom Ministry, do you read what has been provided there to help you in your ministry?
• How many of the older publications of Jehovah’s Witnesses have you read?
this was meant to have nice inserted pictures and tidy hyperlinks but the forum's being glitchy today.
so unfortunately it's going to be a messy post where you're going to have to exercise your tapping fingers and click on the links to the pics to see what i'm referring to.
sorry about that.. in the article recently studied "do this in remembrance of me" (w13 12/15), there is a box on p. 23 giving the date of this year's memorial and how that date is arrived at.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2013926.