AnnOMaly , I think I know you from another ex-witness forum. You used the same nickname, but I was not OPUS there.
Oh right? Which one? What name did you use? PM me if you don't want to disclose it on here.
i suspect that i am the last one here who has read the book: the cyrus cylinder: the king of persias proclamation from ancient babylon, edited by irving finkel; published by i. b. tauris, 2013; 144 pages.. so i simply wish to record my deep admiration for the book.
it explains and analyses the cylinders text as well as providing a sympathetic account of the people involved with its ancient and modern history.
(chapter 1: the babylonian perspective; chapter 2: discovery; chapter 5: a persian perspective.
i suspect that i am the last one here who has read the book: the cyrus cylinder: the king of persias proclamation from ancient babylon, edited by irving finkel; published by i. b. tauris, 2013; 144 pages.. so i simply wish to record my deep admiration for the book.
it explains and analyses the cylinders text as well as providing a sympathetic account of the people involved with its ancient and modern history.
(chapter 1: the babylonian perspective; chapter 2: discovery; chapter 5: a persian perspective.
opus: http://www.livius.org/ct-cz/cyrus_I/babylon05.html
Thanks Doug. Only read bits of it, but I found it interesting about the suggestion that burial chambers found in Ketef Hinnom (Jerusalem) were still being used after 587/6 BCE during the exile. It sparked my wanting more info about it and so, rooting around the 'net, I saw someone else contend that the chambers were where only the higher classes were buried. Seeing as only the poor were left in the land, so the argument went, these chambers couldn't have been used until after the exile when the higher status Jews returned. There was a counter-argument to that too. Anyway, I learned something new :-)
in january or february of this year, my father was df'd for viewing pornography.
he was diagnosed with a rare-ish lung cancer in august, it doesn't have good recovery odds.
he had been struggling with a porn problem for awhile, asking the 'brothers' for help.
I'm very sorry to hear of your dad's illness and situation. I hope a new support network can be found to help him through this (are there charitable groups associated with the hospital?). Perhaps your brother can print out some of the FB messages so he can read them without sitting up?
i found this recorded elder's talk (presumably genuine) quite disturbing in how he states that in order to maintain unity, jw's have given up thinking for themselves and passed over their thinking ability to the governing body.. "when you're baptized, your thinking is not your own anymore...your thinking is done for you...we carry out to the letter everything the society tells us to do..." .
his concluding statement "stop thinking for yourselves!".
there's the usual reference to the korah and those who challenged moses, but "you in the congregation are safe as long as you don't speak out against the elders and jehovah's organisation...".
No background noise, as Listener said. Too blatant, 'in your face.' Lingo was off for a elder. One of the give-aways was mentioning Ray Franz and CoC by name and title. Only long-timers (or 'apostates') would recognize the name, and this 'talk' was produced in the clean digital, rather than fuzzy analogue, era.
ok, at the risk of getting flamed, i have been out for over 20 years, and still love kingdom melodies.
i remember them for the good times, the conventions and assemblies, hearing the orchestral versions, imagining the orchestra playing.
some pieces were really nice.
I still like a lot of the Kingdom Songs from the pinky-purple and brown books (but the new one - ugh).
have you ever heard that statement?
i have heard it many times and i just don't know what to do with it.
they are chosing a to live a lie because they like the lifestyle.
To those that trot out "I don't care if its teachings are false, I'd never leave because it's the best way of life":
(John 4:24) . . .God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” Do you think the God of Truth would approve of being worshipped with falsehood?
If you really believe that a religion's teachings do not have to be true - just so long as you have a nice, moral life - why the hell do you criticize other churches?
hi,.
would anyone happen to have a pdf copy of this book please.
many thanks in advance.
i dont know if anyone forgot me or remembered.
but lets start where i left off.
sooo.
Now weve got sisters textng my wife asking why we would help our grandma out instead of meetings.
You gotta be kidding me. Rude and skewed. I don't remember ones at our hall being so intrusive when we were helping elderly relatives and missing meetings to do so. I hope your wife has been texting them back telling them she owes them no explanation and to mind their own damn business.
Oh, and as long as you show up at the odd meeting, it gives out a message that you still believe it's the 'truth' and it reminds everyone of your existence, hence the renewed attention. The memory of you is shoved to the back of people's minds if you don't attend.
i went to the rc last weekend (for my hubby).
it was at a new venue.
a large arena usually putting on music concerts.
Not necessarily segregation but a clip-board attendant throwing his weight about. I'd like to think my response would have been (always easier to think of in hindsight):
"Brother, there are no Asian brothers and sisters here at the moment. We'll finish our sandwiches. We won't be long. If the area fills up and we are in the way, we will move." Big smile. Eyes communicate, 'You want me to move now? Just try it, buster.'