A spare "WHACK!" awaits Ann, for feeding the "Evil Troll" Class of degenerate Spiritual-jWs.
A-thanking you. Let me return the favor thus:
some souls here may feel i was a little harsh.
if so, i am deeply sorry.
i was abused by a handful right from the start, presumably on the basis of the avatar picture (and 2001 vintage).. when visiting dubland, i often find that others start fights with me - for whatever reason, and i provide quite a supply of them - and when it doesn't quite go the way they expected, they cry persecution.
A spare "WHACK!" awaits Ann, for feeding the "Evil Troll" Class of degenerate Spiritual-jWs.
A-thanking you. Let me return the favor thus:
i remember years ago when i was a little boy aroung 9 years old, our bookstudy conductor was in the hospital and at the last minute one of the elders asked my aunt to be the book study conductor.
this was the first time i have seen this happen.
my aunt did a very good job and the bookstudy acted as it was not something from outer space.
you should have brought a Burqa.
Alas, there was no room to pack one in my ministry bag. It was in the days of paper literature and hardback books. Your shoulder was pulled down so much, over time you began to walk like Quasimodo.
the annual meeting of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will be in october 2014.. .. in november 2013, just after the last one they published this now famous statement in the 15th of november 2013 watchtower page 16 paragraph 17 says:.
"at that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from jehovahs organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.
all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.".
No, no. You forgot,
Like a lot of things JW, the list is invisible. You'll have to use your 'eyes of discernment' to see it ... eventually ... perhaps in 2034.
i remember years ago when i was a little boy aroung 9 years old, our bookstudy conductor was in the hospital and at the last minute one of the elders asked my aunt to be the book study conductor.
this was the first time i have seen this happen.
my aunt did a very good job and the bookstudy acted as it was not something from outer space.
I sometimes used to conduct the meetings for field service, say the prayer, and assign territory when it was all sisters. They'd 'volunteer' me because they didn't want to do it LOL. I hated wearing a handkerchief or one of the sister's unwashed scarves on my head - felt like an idiot. On occasion I'd read the paragraphs at the book study too.
paragraph 1 & 2:.
we all enjoy life even now due to jehovah's tender mercies, for if it were not for his slowness to anger all humans would not have lived into this 21st century of out common era.
even those crippled severly cling to life thus demonstrating the will of humans to live even in adversity.
It's been spun already.
At times, organizational adjustments
need to be made. In recent
years, a number of branch offices have
been merged with others. Though such
changes require that the brothers and
sisters serving at these branches make
adjustments, before long the advantages
of the changes become clear to all involved.
(Eccl. 7:8) What a joy it is for
such willing workers to play a part in the
ongoing history of Jehovah’s people![... Experiences: 'Blah blah, challenging, blah blah, right decision, blah blah, how blessed we are.' ...]
Because of branch mergers, some
Bethelites are reassigned to serve in the
pioneer work. This was true of several
Bethelites when the branches in
Denmark, Norway, and Sweden were
merged to form the Scandinavia branch
office. Among them were Florian and
Anja, who said: “We view our new assignment
as an exciting challenge. For
us, it is wonderful to be used by Jehovah
no matter where we serve. We can honestly
say that we feel richly blessed!”
Even though most of us may never have
to make such adjustments, can we not
imitate the willingness of these brothers
and sisters to put Kingdom interests
first? (Isa. 6:8) Jehovah always blesses
those who cherish their privilege of
working with him, wherever that work
may be.
...where communication/information has progressed vastly, the jw r&f have, in well over 100 years, progressed from sandwich boards to..errr..modernised sandwich boards as their up-to-date means of communicating.. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2691254/how-jehovahs-witnesses-got-street-smart-believers-swap-infamous-doorstepping-standing-outside-train-stations-shops.html.
comments are open at bottom of page folks!.
w.1978 5/15 p. 15 Insight on the News
Reaching the People
Japan’s “Daily Yomiuri” recently carried an article entitled “Foreign Missionaries Here Changing Ideas, Tactics.” The article showed that after over 100 years of activity less than 1 percent of the 113 million Japanese profess Christianity. One reason the missionaries gave for not using a direct approach was: “Not even salesmen go door-to-door. ‘It’s considered impolite.’” So the article disclosed that most of Christendom’s missionaries no longer have the goal of converting large numbers of people and they no longer go door to door. They “work with already-converted Christians and wait for others to come to them.” The result? Churches have closed; one was “converted” into a coffee shop. One large university closed its theology department.
But Jehovah’s Witnesses in Japan have long carried on vigorous door-to-door preaching of the Bible. Since 1949 when the first Witness missionaries arrived till now, Japan has seen phenomenal growth. Today there are over 43,000 Witnesses preaching the “good news.” Yes, some missionaries have changed their tactics. But Jehovah’s Witnesses still heed the Founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, who did not wait for people to come to him and who commanded: “Go therefore and make disciples.”—Matt. 28:19.
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w.1969 12/15 p. 749 par. 13 “Go . . . Make Disciples . . . Baptizing Them”
... he commanded his disciples there in Galilee to go to all the people: “Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations.” (Matt. 28:19) They were not to wait upon the people to come to them, but were to go to the people everywhere.
so scanning through the gods kingdom rules i found this gem on page 228.. .
"in heaven, the 144,000 corulers with christ will recieve authority to share with jesus in weilding an "iron rod" of destruction against all enemies of gods kingdom.
( rev 2 26,27) then, together with powerful angels, the resurrected anointed ones will follow christ, the warrior king, as he sets out to confront the "vast army" of enemies that is closing in on its prey - jehovahs people.".
i predict the WT will change it's doctrine to anointd AND other sheep go to heaven at 'the rapture'. The anointed war with Jesus while the other sheep stand with plam branches and sing.
Wacky things have happened but on this, highly unlikely. Having classes/different destinies is integral to WT theology. However, I can envision a revival and revamp of Russell's idea so that the (increasing throng of) secondary anointed are the heavenly 'great crowd,' the WT presidents and GB members past and present are the ones called and chosen to accompany Christ in his slaughtering work. That leaves the 'other sheep'/'Jonadabs' sheltering in KHs around the world, preparing to clean up the mess.
so scanning through the gods kingdom rules i found this gem on page 228.. .
"in heaven, the 144,000 corulers with christ will recieve authority to share with jesus in weilding an "iron rod" of destruction against all enemies of gods kingdom.
( rev 2 26,27) then, together with powerful angels, the resurrected anointed ones will follow christ, the warrior king, as he sets out to confront the "vast army" of enemies that is closing in on its prey - jehovahs people.".
They're reiterating their recent change of view, i.e. finally deciding on the question, 'will some anointed survive into the new world or won't they?'. They've vascillated on this for decades.*
But the possibility of them surviving on earth beyond Armageddon raised scriptural conundrums - particularly in Revelation.
(Revelation 2:26, 27) . . .And to him that conquers and observes my deeds down to the end I will give authority over the nations, and he shall shepherd the people with an iron rod so that they will be broken to pieces like clay vessels, the same as I have received from my Father"
(Revelation 17:12-14) . . .“And the ten horns that you saw mean ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings one hour with the wild beast. These have one thought, and so they give their power and authority to the wild beast. These will battle with the Lamb, but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. Also, those called and chosen and faithful with him [will do so].”
Revelation 19 describes the marriage of the Lamb, followed by the evening meal of the Lamb's marriage where the slaughtered comprise the main course (yum). Marriage first, then slaughtering, then eating. (Helluva wedding!)
So if some anointed are not gathered before Armageddon, how can a complete Bride be presented to the Lamb? How can Jesus fulfil his promise that the faithful anointed will smash the nations to pieces and conquer the 'ten horns' with him?
Therefore the GB has tidied up these loose ends. It has meant that they have had to adopt some kind of 'rapture' doctrine where the anointed remnant still on earth are transferred to heaven before Armageddon (1 Thess. 4:15-17). On this issue, the GB is more in keeping with scriptural teaching.
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* w74 12/15 pp. 765-766 par. 36 Benefits and Rewards from Being Spiritually Secure
Only from the end of the year 1928 was the prospect opened up to the spiritual understanding of the anointed remnant of the “Israel of God” to survive the “war of the great day of God the Almighty” at Har–Magedon and enter here on earth into Jehovah’s righteous new order. (See The Watch Tower under date of December 15, 1928, page 376, paragraphs 35, 36.) And now, as the year 1975 opens up, some thousands of the anointed remnant, still alive on this earth, look ahead to realizing that joyful prospect. The increasing “great crowd” of their sheeplike companions look forward with them to entering the New Order without interruption of life. In the New Order Jehovah God will add to the “length of days” of the anointed remnant on earth to the point of satisfying the members thereof. It remains to be seen whether they will be yet retained here on earth to see the start of the resurrection of the earthly dead and to meet faithful witnesses of ancient, pre-Christian times. They would enjoy that, before being taken off the earthly scene to the heavenly reward with Christ.
w90 12/15 p. 30 Do You Remember?
□ Will some anointed Christians survive the “great tribulation” and live on earth for a time before being taken to heaven?—Revelation 7:14.
The Bible is not explicit on this. Some Bible accounts seem to suggest that anointed ones might live on into the new world. However, millions of those hoping to live forever on earth have received the training needed to get the new world under way. Hence, the small remnant would not be needed for this work, and God may choose to take them to heaven for “the marriage of the Lamb” after the executing of the religious harlot, “Babylon the Great.” (Revelation 18:2, 10; 19:2, 7, 8)—8/15, page 31.
2014 god's kingdom rules pdf!
we would like to thank cedars who contacted a friend who sent us the book to scan.
the sender was promised that the book would be rerurned to them unharmed.
Cross-reference to other comments about the book's contents.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/281519/1/New-Book-Gods-Kingdom-Rules#.U8EcmpRdXYk
And there's Cedars' own review.
okay guys, i wish i could have posted this earlier, but unfortunately, i didn't have the time.
anyway, as i've told you in my previous post, thursday, before reacting the convention site we visited a family of "apostates" from a group which separated itselft from the borg but is still doing the same dumb old shit the borg did many decades ago.
anyway, now let's talk about the convention in itself.
I do remember them mentioning the photo drama of creation...but not in a comparison, as in vs. what the world has done. Had that wording been used I'm sure I would have caught something that ridiculous. Maybe in the Romanian outline the speaker got a little creative, or just worded it differently.
Nope, tresdecu. This comparison was part of the outline. Not kidding.