Posts by AnnOMaly

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Please post new forum feedback or questions here

by Simon in

well, the switchover happened - there were a couple of things i had to fix which meant the posting was disabled for longer than i planned but it's now enabled and some people have already posted.. if you have any questions about the new format or suggestions on how to improve it, please post them here.. if you are having trouble signing in or posting then you'll need to email me instead.. many thanks to everyone for their patience during the changeover !.

AnnOMaly

OUTLAW!

Good to see you but I miss Mutley.

Coloring shows up in the reply box but does not transfer to the final post :( The highlighting seems to work, though.

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New Understanding of Slave Class

by mrquik in

jw
friends

good morning all (good evening to those on the wrong side of the world);.

could someone explain the new arrangement with the "anointed"?

is anyone other than the gb in this class anymore?

AnnOMaly

Re: prologos' 1st post on this thread:

only the Governing body gets the reward when they are raptured before Armageddon

Well, yes and no .... All the 'anointed' get raptured before the Big A and get the same reward - even though all but 7 or 8 of them don't comprise the appointed 'faithful and discreet slave' class. IOW, the vast majority of 'anointed' get the same lofty reward as the 'faithful and discreet slave' for having no responsibility whatsoever! Neat that, huh?

w13 7/15, p.25

19 Does the faithful slave receive a
greater reward in heaven than the rest
of the anointed? No. A reward promised
to a small group in one setting may
ultimately be shared by others. For example,
consider what Jesus said to his
11 faithful apostles the night before he
died. (Read Luke 22:28-30.) Jesus promised
that small group of men that a fine
reward awaited them for their faithfulness.
They would share his throne of
kingly authority. But years later, he indicated
that all of the 144,000 will sit on
thrones and share his rulership. (Rev.
1:1; 3:21) Similarly, as stated at Matthew
24:47, he promised that a small group of
men—the anointed brothers who make
up the faithful slave—will be appointed
over all his belongings. In reality, all of
the 144,000 will share his vast heavenly
authority.—Rev. 20:4, 6.

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Question about the HLC and medical records

by OrphanCrow in

the hlc was established after i left the jws.

here in canada, the hlc was piloted back in the early 70s and that is when i had a personal encounter with the men in white shirts and shiny black shoes who took away my right to make medical decisions.. i am not very familiar with the internal doings of the hlc, other than that they hold the jw patient's life in their hands.. when the hospital liaison committee becomes involved in a jw patient's health care, what type of information is sent to the watchtower headquarters, and does the watchtower society receive copies of the patient's medical records?

if so, does the society maintain a database/library of historical medical cases that the hlc has been involved in?

AnnOMaly

There was a version of the 'no blood' card some years ago that had a clause permitting the HLC to access your medical records!

(Somebody posted a scan on this forum but imageshack have blocked a view of it other than a piddling little thumbnail on Google images.)

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My dub aunt thinks Obama is mentioned in the bible.

by Jehovah lol in

she's not even american and doesn't live in the usa so it's not even her area of political awareness really.

she seems convinced that obama is the prophesied wolf in sheep's clothing mentioned in revelation.. it's unusual for non-us dubs to hold the weirder beliefs, so this is a new one for me.

she also said that the end is very close now and that things are a foot with north korea; it's clearly the king of the north.. she said exactly the same thing 5 years ago about china, and exactly the same thing 10 years ago about iraq.. derp derp..

AnnOMaly

I think North Korea is evidently the 'king of the north' because both are baddies and both have 'north' as part of their description.

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Site issues: Dec 27 Update

by Simon in

here's the current status:.

performance improvements have been made to make things slicker.. the "remember me" issue should now be fixed.. sign-in captcha can be affected by ad-blockers so consider disabling those.. sign-in email is case-sensitive - until i update this consider using your forum username instead.. ie stalls on "queued for processing" when posting a topic or reply but the post has been made (just navigate to active or refresh the topic if replying).. i will be working through issues today and contacting anyone who had sign-in issues to check if they still have problems.. many thanks again for your patience while we work through these teething problems..

AnnOMaly

I miss the old feature that, for each post, showed the post # out of total posts - for example, post #365 of 399. Could that be added here?

Actually, Magnum, some kind of post numbering system would be very useful in keeping track of responses in a thread - especially a lively, busy one - and navigating/cross-referencing between other threads and posts.

If you, Simon, do not want to reintroduce the dates on posts, a post numbering system will be vital. Both dates and numbering would be helpful, though. It isn't always practical to quote every bit of text you're replying to and it would be handy to say which post is being referred to..

For instance, which is easier?

"Regarding Simon's post he made approximately 9 hours before this one on this thread - the one 10 posts down on the first page (or 5 posts down on the 2nd page if your page is set to 5 posts per page) ...."

Or,

"Regarding Simon's post #10 ...."

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Regarding some of the reasons I think reintroducing dates are important. See THIS THREAD and a comment I made approximately 2 days previous to this post, 14 posts down on the first page (using the 20 posts per page setup).

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It makes it a lot harder navigating through this massive site without a numbering (or dating) system in place. If individual posts could be hyperlinked to as well - even better!

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New Site Problems

by The Searcher in

jw
friends

hi simon - i'd sent you an email regarding this problem;.

i cannot see the captcha facility to enable me to prove i'm a humanzee and log-on.

so i could not gain access to my account and participate - despite trying numerous suggestions provided on the internet.. i tried one last thing - i downloaded mozilla firefox (never tried it before) and it by-passes the captcha function and gives me access now.. i look forward to getting acquainted with the new-look web site.. thanks simon..

AnnOMaly

Greener: Given all the problems that so many have had on here now with the new site etc..can we conclude that this has all been a horrible mistake?

Nah. Glitches are normal for a massive site change-over like this.

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User sign-in issues

by Simon in

just a heads-up / status update - i'm still working on the issues so please don't think i've abandoned you if you still can't sign in and i haven't replied to your email.. i will get things sorted out and then we'll have the old gang back together.. thanks again to you all for your patience and perseverance while the teething problems are being ironed out.

AnnOMaly

20years_to_get_free

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I have a question about a quote from Ray Franz

by Truth and Justice in

jw
friends

hi to the group!.

i have a question about a quote that ray franz made, and i am quoting him, his quote is as follows: page 283 of "crisis of conscience" top of the page:.

fred was saying - in his comments, he stated that some were questioning the society's position (set forth in a recent watchtower) that jesus christ is the mediator only for the "anointed" ones and not for the other millions of jehovah's witnesses.

AnnOMaly

My question is do they still believe this way?

It hasn't been rescinded.

*** w79 4/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***
● Is Jesus the “mediator” only for anointed Christians?
... At a time when God was selecting those to be taken into that new covenant, the apostle Paul wrote that Christ was the “one mediator between God and men.” (1 Tim. 2:5) Reasonably Paul was here using the word “mediator” in the same way he did the other five times, which occurred before the writing of 1 Timothy 2:5, referring to those then being taken into the new covenant for which Christ is “mediator.” So in this strict Biblical sense Jesus is the “mediator” only for anointed Christians.

*** w89 12/15 p. 30 Do You Remember? ***

In what sense does Paul use the term “mediator” when referring to Jesus at 1 Timothy 2:5, 6?

In this text, Paul uses the Greek word me·si′tes for “mediator,” which term has a legal significance, so he is not using this word in the broad sense common in many languages. Hence, Paul is not saying that Jesus is Mediator between God and all mankind. Rather, he is referring to Christ as legal Mediator of the new covenant, which laid the basis for Christ’s anointed followers to share with him in his heavenly Kingdom. (2 Corinthians 5:1, 5; Ephesians 1:13, 14; Hebrews 8:7-13)—8/15, pages 30, 31.

*** w08 12/15 pp. 13-14 pars. 12-14 Appreciate Jesus’ Unique Role in God’s Purpose ***

The original-language word translated “mediator” is a legal term. It refers to Jesus as a legal Mediator (or, in a sense, an attorney) of the new covenant that made possible the birth of a new nation, “the Israel of God.” (Gal. 6:16) This nation is composed of spirit-anointed Christians, who form a heavenly “royal priesthood.” (1 Pet. 2:9; Ex. 19:6) The Law covenant, with Moses as mediator, was not able to produce a nation like that.

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What about those who are not in the new covenant, those who hope to live forever on earth, not in heaven? While not participants in the new covenant, these are beneficiaries of it. They receive forgiveness of their sins and are declared righteous as God’s friends. (Jas. 2:23; 1 John 2:1, 2) Whether we have a heavenly hope or an earthly hope, each one of us has good reason to appreciate Jesus’ role as the Mediator of the new covenant.

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Forum shuns me!

by stillin in

the forum has signed me off twice.

glad i got the sign in thing worked out!

also, my pm alert says there is mail for me but there isn't.. simon, are you down under?

AnnOMaly

Ah thanks stillin. It went to -3 and then I clicked on your message and it went back to -4. LOL

I'm not bothered really. It's one of those funny glitches that'll get fixed eventually (as Apo said).

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Christmas Beliefs!

by J-DUBBED in

do jehova wingnuts believe jesus birthday isn't dec 25?

or do they just plain and simple not believe in any birthday?.

AnnOMaly

One of the possible reasons why December 25th was chosen as Christ's birth was that some early Christians thought Jesus was conceived on March 25th - March, Spring, new life, God created the world then, day of a prophet's conception would be the day of his death (Jesus' conception day = his crucifixion day) - all sorts of symbolisms.