what's the worst thing you did as a jw?.......for me, it was to help other persons come to love the "organization".
i can relate to what you all are saying. I cringe to think of how I behaved; critical, arrogant, and rude. I still see the same anger and self-righteousness in me, like it is hard wired in my brain.
I also wore a lot of ugly polyester and used a rainbow of highlighter markers to color my WT. and once I wore hot pink underwear under a white skirt out in field service. =suz
i think many people here can applaud wg for her perseverence, her self determination, her ability in being self supporting and being able to stand up to the nonsense inflict upon her and her kids by her soon to be ex wt-whipped husband.
but what of the women who are not so fortunate as to have the means to currently take care of themselves, yet are locked in marriages to jw husbands who use every wt trick in the book up to and even including the withholding of financial support for enjoying life to coerce their spouse into accepting wt doctrine they know to be false?.
i comfortably sit on the other side of the spectrum.
thanks blondie, you're a sweetheart.
i think many people here can applaud wg for her perseverence, her self determination, her ability in being self supporting and being able to stand up to the nonsense inflict upon her and her kids by her soon to be ex wt-whipped husband.
but what of the women who are not so fortunate as to have the means to currently take care of themselves, yet are locked in marriages to jw husbands who use every wt trick in the book up to and even including the withholding of financial support for enjoying life to coerce their spouse into accepting wt doctrine they know to be false?.
i comfortably sit on the other side of the spectrum.
"..could I myself be considered manipulative if one day I choose to stop supporting my wife's WT fixes?"
You sound like a saint so far. She's making a lot of demands, expecting your financial support while she's "working so hard" in field svc. You've been patient, understanding and tolerant, probably more so than the people in her congregation. You say your wife's resolve is weakening...maybe she will come around to your side.
It might take her a while after leaving the Troof to realize what she put you thru. For now, it certainly seems reasonable to ask her to contribute something. Can't she get a part-time job and pay a few bills?
I grew up in a divided household circa 1975. My parents had a lot of bitter, violent fights. After 15 years of fanatacism my mom finally got fed up and left. She still reads her NWT bible and talks to the sisters who make endless return visits. She's found other interests and made new friends over time. My dad's still a drunk asshole tho
WHat i'm trying to say is: you sound like a loving, caring man and I hope your wife realizes that soon. She will no doubt be very needy emotionally if/ when she makes her final break from the WT. A part of me wants to say "hang in there" but I know how frustrating it can be
(almost as frustrating as trying to figure out how to turn of this @#$% yellow highlighter) =suz
I like to shake my rolls of fat to whatever music is on the radio, or sometimes i make up my own songs. Catchy advertising jingles are good too.
gotta go gotta go gotta go right now =suz
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congratulations to arrowstar, she's a master member!!
luv you, girl!!!
We all * appreciate your positive energy and kindness, arrowstar. I'm glad you are so prolific.
* Except for Stan, but he sounds like a bit of a crank anyway. =suz
this post isn't about "how much longer until the new system of things" arrives.
i'm wondering how much longer people will buy this load of crap?
the society has been telling the r&f that armageddon is right around the corner for 124 years now, and they're still using this method.
Good topic Nosferatu! When I used to entertain myself with "impure thoughts" at the KH, i realized how fantasy is so much better than reality.
The JWs suspend their disbelief because they have everything invested in this Paradise on Earth fantasy. The more they give up "worldly things," the more deeply entrenched they become. Among the JWs the young people are leaving. I think this trend will continue among JWs in their 30s-40s who see the hypocrisy can't stand living the lie anymore.
There will always be old, brainwashed die hards who will remain and do anything the Society tells them. I have a feeling a lot of the elderly will stay in the faith out of fear and unhealthy dependency.
just my ramblings, i'm not usually up this early. -suz
the following story appears this morning in the south florida sun-sentinel at:.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-cmurdsui26aug26,1,2987431.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines.
fort lauderdale police suspect father killed son, then self in home shooting.
I wonder if the man killed his son to get back at his wife -- taking the one thing she loves most.
I'm always glad to see JWs get bad publicity. Shocking news reports are always a wake up call. maybe this is what it takes for people to question their faith, or for the authorities to investigate.
If there is a god, he must be a sadist and total prick to allow things like this to happen. -suz
remember the english girl babysitter who was supposed to have murdered that little baby?
the court case was on live tv everyday (like ojsimpson).
i watched both and was convinced of ojs guilt but was also convinced of lwoodwoods innocence.
Hello Brummie, I was riveted by that trial also.
The defendant (Louise Woodward) didn't seem very convincing on the stand ,especially when she did that shaking demonstration. There was also a time during the trial when she smiled (nervously) and many people interpreted that as being callous.
She had such a baby face, she didn't LOOK guilty. I'm glad the original sentence was reduced; she really didn't belong in jail.
=suz
after reading posts on the learning from the great teacher, the part about gets playing with themselves each other makes the demons happy.
i wondered how many of us were scared to death as a youngster and even in our 20's 30's that the demons were going to attack us , in our house, furniture flying at us, if we strayed from the organization or once we left the org.
that they were waiting for us, just another scare tactic from the watchtower, what a bunch of bs.. any thoughts ??
As a kid, I had recurring nightmares and "creepy feelings" of being watched at night. My mom and her JW friends talked about demon possession and spiritism, and it fascinated/ horrified me. I imagined I heard them whispering to me at night in taunting voices about all the bad things i did. I used to wake up screaming and feeling smothered. If read library books about witchcraft or vampires, i would then get a splitting headache, as if i was being punished. I would go ahead and read them anyway, because they were so interesting (and forbidden!).
As a pre-teen, the nightmares started occuring because of guilt about sexual curiousity. I continued to have nightmares well into my 20s, after having sex or even just "foolin' around." for a long time i was terrified to go to sleep. I am so thankful to Pfizer for those handy lil pills.
you may be confronted with relatives and witness friends who annoy you, with self-righteous comments about "coming back.
to the 'truth' and other judgemental urgings.. suppose you replied "i forgive the watchtower society for the terrible things they've done, i need to do that so i can progess as a. spiritual person".. such a response might be very disarming - and difficult to counter.. witnesses generally reject the notion that the watchtower can ever do anything wrong - rationalizing that any cruelties they.
inflict are somehow part of a greater divine purpose.
I can forgive my mom and the other JWs who indoctrinated me in WT thinking, but i can't forgive the WT Society itself.
The WTS sounds as conniving and corrupt (even sinister) as the tobacco companies - spreading misinformation and outright lies in the hopes of hooking new converts. The more I read about their history, the more disgusted I get. I hope the onslaught of lawsuits gets them where it hurts.
Forgive people, not organizations. i guess i' m still bitter. suz
