Posts by GoUnion

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received text from my mom

by GoUnion in

so my wife and my parents are at their convention today.

this will be the first time in my life that i will not have seen a drama or baptism.

i will miss the public address, i will not see many of my lifelong friends that i have moved away from.

So my wife and my parents are at their convention today. this will be the first time in my life that i will not have seen a drama or baptism. i will miss the public address, i will not see many of my lifelong friends that i have moved away from. it took me awhile to get started this morning, im going to be heading to the gym but i just received this text from my mom.

"I just wanted to tell you, Dad and I love you, (my wife) loves you and all your friends love you, as does Jehovahs. Please don't throw it all away."

my mom has never talked to me like this before and it kind of hit me hard today. it amazes me how much my decision to simply stop attending meetings has affected them. i would like to be part of my old social network, i had real friends and while it was "the truth" that brought us together, the friendships that developed over a lifetime were real. they would still be real except for this manmade barrier that is engrained in the minds of JWs, this barrier that tells a person that when their friend does not fit into the mold, they are spiritually "weak". the alarms go off in their mind, and the isolation process begins. no more conversations, no more invites, the defective cog must be left alone, maybe it will be fixed, maybe not, leave it alone so it wont rub off on others.

its a tough process to go through, to leave this religon/cult. i have been very careful so as not to incriminate myself in various conversations, but that is what is so ingenious about this cult. it forces ones that learn TTATT that do not want to be df/ed, to keep queit. the ones that dont, obviously we know what happens.

open discourse, dangerous indeed.

its a nice day outside, i think im gonna go enjoy it.

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Return to the Kingdom Hall!

by One Last Kiss in

i recently did just that and had an unexpectedly uplifting experience.

whilst on vacay i was informed by my jw friend (only dimly aware of my faded status) that wed be visiting the local kh .

so there i was, far from home, not been to a kh in over a year and heading to the sunday meeting.

GoUnion

Xwhyzee... I almost want to go to a hall where they dont know me just to try your theory. Almost. The JWs teach they are the happiest people but most, I think, are just run down and simply say they are busy in the lords work. induced delusion.

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Recordings of conventions and co talks

by GoUnion in

are the parts on conventions and the talks given at congregations at co's still under the orders not to be recorded by the members?

i seem to remember an announcement like this when i was in, but i paid very little mind to it.

after learning about some of the more outspoken talks given by co's over the years i was curious what their official reasonings were for these bans.. it seems clear to me though that the ban is simply to give themselves some sort of plausible deniabiltiy and allow the co's to go on their little rants.

GoUnion

Are the parts on conventions and the talks given at congregations at co's still under the orders not to be recorded by the members? i seem to remember an announcement like this when i was in, but i paid very little mind to it. after learning about some of the more outspoken talks given by co's over the years i was curious what their official reasonings were for these bans.

it seems clear to me though that the ban is simply to give themselves some sort of plausible deniabiltiy and allow the co's to go on their little rants. anyone have any information on this?

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Shaving: Wet or Electric?

by FL_Panthers in

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something i ponder about now and again.

i don't shave that much, maybe twice a week so it's not even a big deal, but i saw someone at the health club using an electric shaver and that got me pondering all over again.. .

i've been using mach iii recently and fairly happy with that.

GoUnion

I wanted to be one of those guys that grew a beard after leaving JWs but I'm not allowed to have a beard with my job so I shave pretty regularly. good shaving cream after a hot shower and keeping sharp razors helps turn your shaving chore into a manly ritual. Check out safety blades sometime, someday I'm gonna get a straight blade though.

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SOCIETY OFFICIAL'S TESTIFY AT TRIAL

by Giordano in

society official's testify at trial .

in 1954 some of the most important leaders in the society were called on to give testimony in a court of law in scotland in 1954.the testimony is found here at http://hourglass2.com/historical/the-list/list7_09.htm.

nathan knorr was president of the society at this time, and fred franz was vice president.

GoUnion

I used the phrase "forced unity" when an elder told me only JWs have love among themselves. Always nice to know others think very similar to me, helps remind me I'm not crazy. thanks for the link.

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Is it possible to maintain personal beliefs as a member of the Watchtower Society

by I_love_Jeff in

is it possible to maintain personal beliefs as a member of the watchtower society when absolute unity is demanded?https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20140601160940aawap1s.

this question was deleted from yahoo!

answers due to it being "insulting/ ranting" against a group.

GoUnion

I suppose so I know I did. however you will never truly lead a fulfilling life if you realize you are not free to express your opinions or openly talk about serious situations in the organization.

It has made me wonder though if the wt changed it's stance on "unity" and the atmosphere that was fostered was one of research and discussions among members, what would be the result? It wont happen but I think it could potentially make for a nice network.

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What is the key to free yourself from the Organization?

by suavojr in

they key to free yourself from the organization is having mental clarity of what is happening in relation to the watchtower, inside and out.

their basic concept is that they are god's sole organization on earth.

there really is no basis for anyone to make that statement.

GoUnion

ADCLMS- thanks for the quote that one is going to stick with me for a long time!

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Survey---who is inactive, disfellowshipped/disassociated or active?

by minimus in

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i am inactive for about 10 years now..

GoUnion

Inactive for almost 6 months or so. I'm happier, healthier, and i have a little more cash in my pocket.

I find it interesting how many people here live productive, peaceful lives, and no doubt have a positive effect in their community. seems to fly in the face of the bitter, angry, prideful, mentally diseased, and rebellious, depection so many of us were taught.

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How exactly you and your income are being affected by inequality.

by cognisonance in

i found this link really interesting: inequality.is and associated with the excellent robert reich documentary: inequality for all.. .

GoUnion

we need better wages for the middle class?

we need unions to have a stronger say in the workforce.

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Well, what can you say???? I am speechless.

by DATA-DOG in

exhibit a:.

awake!

"if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

GoUnion

thanks for this post data dog. The very best arguement against the organization is using it's own teachings and words. I know I will be printing the 69 awake to use with this wt now. Well done sir.