One of my wife's favorites is that Jehovah allowed it to facilitate a "winnowing work" to "winnow out" those that were working toward a date.
Geez Louise, isn't that what the entire religion was founded on? The working toward a date?
pattern of excuses.
" zion's watch tower 1894 jul 15 p.226.
(compare isaiah 8:11-13.
One of my wife's favorites is that Jehovah allowed it to facilitate a "winnowing work" to "winnow out" those that were working toward a date.
Geez Louise, isn't that what the entire religion was founded on? The working toward a date?
has anyone heard about what is going on inside the organization these days regarding those who claim to be "anointed" christians?
i have had at least three different people now who live in different areas of the country tell me that the elders are systematically pushing out people who claim to have become anointed within the last few years.
these would be younger ones who are now professing the heavenly rather than earthly hope.. i find this interesting for several reasons.
To be more specific, regarding my allusion to corporate decorum, I would expect them to police themselves, and each other, lest they appear foolish. Don't they have press-agents or aide-de-camp that prevent them from committing a faux pas?
I would also like to see some specific, scriptural, proof of their claims of Divine Authority.
Moses had a staff that budded ripe almonds, he could toss it on the ground and it would turn into a serpent. He struck a rock and water issued forth (Waters of Strife), parted the Red Sea, Ten Plagues, Manna, Bronze Serpent, etc. etc. etc.
What provenance/bonafides does the GB have legitimate claim to, exactly? Failed promises? Spurious teachings? If they have substantive proof, what/where is it? It is my opinion that their entire claims originate from the Watchtower. Since they publish it, this is a sort of " circulus in probando ". That is; "A is true because B is true/B is true because A is true". This has been asserted by many writers here, on numerous occasions. To wit, The Watchtower declares the legitimacy of the Governing Body and The Watchtower derives its authority from the Governing Body.
Please understand, I want to believe, give me a reason.
has anyone heard about what is going on inside the organization these days regarding those who claim to be "anointed" christians?
i have had at least three different people now who live in different areas of the country tell me that the elders are systematically pushing out people who claim to have become anointed within the last few years.
these would be younger ones who are now professing the heavenly rather than earthly hope.. i find this interesting for several reasons.
However, their rantings do not mimic "inspired expressions" as recorded in the OT and NT.
They have the ring of personal opinion, rather than inspired utterance.
I perceive Loesch as subdued and foreign. It is also apparent that we Americans are easily gulled by EU accents.
http://youtu.be/dhn2to663cu.
im really channeling my inner blondie with my observation and critiques of these new watchtower videos.
something about them really turns my stomach.
The Mom was pretty hot.
did anyone else watch this two part special?
i've always been interested in archaeology and found it interesting.. the last few minutes she talked of how some think, we are in the end of days.
and she interviewed some woman who apparently was a witness,although,they didn't mention her religion.
Where, exactly, did she say the Bible; "says we're in the last days"?
i watched this video the other day and would like to add some comments.. i have a team of 3 p.es that work for me.
sometimes, i have a few guys who will contract when things get busy.
a few times a year, i may ask my guys (and gal) to work 60,70,80,90, or every hour during a week.
What sort of an engineer is this dude anyway? He seems to be outside the production line (if there is one) and he's hanging in Shipping and Receiving or some nonsense.
I'm an engineer and I can't even begin to figure out what he's actually supposed to be doing. Although, we need to keep in mind the differences between an actual Engineer and the use of the term in a job title. For instance, the IT industry uses it for position titles that have absolutely nothing to do with engineering.
I think the actual Engineers, on this forum, would agree that his particular engineering field could best be described as; "indeterminate".
Additionally, his family study sessions seem totally contrived, strident, and psychotic. The obvious intent was to portray his efforts in a positive light. However, it came off pretty creepy. Sort of like Terry O'Quinn in the original movie The Stepfather. Inordinately bizarre and artificial.
This flick was about his wallowing in guilt and projecting it onto the rest of his family. The scripted frustration had the appearance of someone that was on the verge of "going postal" and ending it in a murder/suicide. The GB wants to convey to us the spiritual advantages to gleaned from dumping your job, house, etc. and living a life of abject poverty. The psychological message is, in part, clear: poverty = spirituality.
I'm baffled as to how the little black dude/elder qualifies as his sensei? What is it with Witnesses that equate age with wisdom. Some people don't grow wiser with age, just older. A robust and successful life experience would seem to impart more valuable data than that gathered by some janitorial drone. What possible sage advice could be imparted from some janitor that worked the same routine day-in-and-day-out, never left his town, and went to five meetings a week (not including meeting for Field Service)? How could such a mind-numbing repetition impart/imbue one with vast stores of knowledge/discernment?
It's a load.
I almost forgot, the Mom is pretty hot and she could intern for me anytime.
teachings that have remained the samewhen you highlight the continual ebb and flow of changing teachings, a jw may refer you to the long held teachings which have never changed.
core doctrines such as the importance of using gods name, and the trinity, hellfire and immortality of the soul all being false.
but even here things are not as simple as they could be:.
Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't the Elderly Parking teaching been pretty much the same for the last 30 years or so?
Of course I think it could do them some good to park out in the "north 40" and get some cardio.
And I almost forgot about the Beard Doctrine. That's been around for 50 years by my personal recollection.
Good to know that some things are immutable.
has anyone heard about what is going on inside the organization these days regarding those who claim to be "anointed" christians?
i have had at least three different people now who live in different areas of the country tell me that the elders are systematically pushing out people who claim to have become anointed within the last few years.
these would be younger ones who are now professing the heavenly rather than earthly hope.. i find this interesting for several reasons.
One thing I miss, say what you will, is the seeming (read that "simulated") dignity and bearing of Knorr and Franz. This current crop appears to be infused with a certain measure of "yahooism". Do even one of them sport an above average I.Q.?
Well, if this is indeed "The Truth" then the scripture is fulfilled; " But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong " (although I'm not certain about "shamed", perhaps just baffled).
Some of the words issuing forth from the mouths of these men do constitute "foolish things".
I'm baffled as to how a corporate entity, at this level, can allow its officers to run off at the mouth, unscripted. If I didn't know better, I'd say they were attempting to see just how far into the weeds they can go, while keeping adherents.
Probably a lot of "Dutch Harbor 10s" around here. That's a 2 at 10:00 (P.M.) and a 10 at 2:00 (A.M.).
last month, my best friend of four years and boyfriend of six months came home from a jehovah's witness convention.
he'd been acting strangely the entire weekend and i knew something was wrong.
i initiated a discussion and he said, "essentially our relationship is wrong and i'm not supposed to be with you.
JW Alzheimers: "you forget everything except the guilt".
Have you considered the distinct possibility that he is just a weasel? You'll find out if he fails to confess to BOE/JC and then tries to worm his way over for a quick conjugal visit. He's going to get really confused, once the post-convention/theocratic blue-balls hits him.