I had similar thoughts:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4923888999858176/education-indoctrination-propaganda
looking for some material to post on facebook or at least share with my wife to somewhat inoculate her mind before the convention this weekend.. found this gem...it's as if the writers are apostates reasoning against the tactics used at this years convention.....(probably old news to many here....quite new for me).. the cunning propagandist loves such shortcuts—especially those that short-circuit rational thought.
propaganda encourages this by agitating the emotions, by exploiting insecurities, by capitalizing on the ambiguity of language, and by bending rules of logic.
as history bears out, such tactics can prove all too effective.. [...].
in the late 1990s there was magazine article that asked the question, are jws a secret society?
obviously they said no, because they claim to be transparent to outsiders and new members.
but they really are not transparent at all.
Well said ctrwtf!
so i went to the convention this past weekend.
not, because i wanted to....but, because i had no choice.. i took myself and our son's out walking every chance i had, i made it so we missed the bunker video, the drama, the stupid dream squashing video with the violin.. but, while in there sitting.
one of the speakers said this:.
I hear your frustrations....but trust me, a person with a few brain cells will eventually wake up and see it....
hello all,i have just signed up to do a comedy course.
it starts in september.in order to get a headstart, i did my first 5 minutes tonight about jws.i explained that i celebrated my first birthday last week.
bemusement and a tittle.explained that if you could choose between hare krishnas and people standing at a trolley/cart as a religion who would you choose?got a laugh.explained that the whole world will be destroyed if you do not listen to our message, yet we are not prepared to initiate a conversation at a trolley.big laugh.
Why dont witnesses make good hardware store workers?
They spend all day in the doors section knocking on each one....
the new broadcast is - predictably - about being loyal to the gb.it's a shut up and sit down message.. one of the funny things they keep bringing up is the correlation between the gb and moses.those who don't listen to the gb are like korah.. this is a false choice, why?let's look at a quick comparison.
(this is from the point of view of the bible).
was moses directly picked by god?- yeswas the gb directly picked by god?- well no, we actually are not told how the gb are picked and why the qualify.. did god talk to moses?- yesdoes god talk to the gb- no, they admit they are not in direct communication.. did god inspire moses to write laws and judge.- yesdoes god inspire the gb to write laws and judge.- no, they admit they are not inspired, and they are always wrong and need to change things all the time.. did god give the israelites undisputable proof that moses is his channel?- yes, many miracles visible to everyone one around happenddoes god give jws undisputable proof that the gb are his channel?- no, there is no proof, actually contrary.. was moses ever wrong?- nohas the gb ever been wrong?- every time.
Data Dog, you once again hit the nail on the head with that great post on the previous page!
Well said sir! Well said indeed!
the meeting this week is mind-blowing in the way it fuels the crippling "persecution complex" of witnesses!.
paragraph 1 set the theme with this gem:.
does it shock you that you can expect to face many tribulations before you gain the prize of everlasting life?
I ran into a sister today, and after a minute of small talk, she started going on about "how tough it is these days, and how bad the world is, and how the end MUST be getting close..."
Oh dear....
I just said "You know, there is something to be thankful for each day. Every day has something of worth or joy to focus on IF WE ALLOW ourselves to do so....Not everything is negative. Enjoy the life you have. Smile"
She just didn't get it....
it seems that for a witness to keep up with the ever changing doctrines, teachings, beliefs and ideas of the society is a way to identify a so called "spiritual one" compared to a "weak or non spiritual" one!.
just like the account in "gideon's time", if someone did not pronounce the word shibboleth correctly, they were viewed with suspicion or even killed!.
so too, if one doesn't know the latest "truth", they are to be viewed with suspicion or caution!.
Exactly! Those who are not on the witness treadmill actually know MORE about the "current truth" from sites like this than the drones in the congregations do!
It is never about the CONTENT of teaching, just the OBEDIANCE to the society....
there is nothing wrong with accepting new ideas.
even apostle paul changed his mind when he "saw the light".
indeed, i hope to learn new things every day.
No problem with them changing policies, teachings etc if they want...
BUT the issue I have is how they hide the past, or white-wash the past teachings, sweeping them under the carpet and pretending like it was the average witness who was wrong, or misguided....
Also, if they say "New Light" is from God, yet God never gets things wrong, then was God wrong, or were they wrong?
they have made so many strategical mistakes it's hard to keep track.
some changes within the last decade or so that are contributing to declining numbers of jws:.
1. elimination of book study groups, the most informal, enjoyable and sociable of the jw meetings, contributed to loss of sense of community among jws.. 2. policy of consolidating kingdom halls.
The craziness of the official website.....
there is a fundamental lie which i couldn’t help noticing today in the our christian life and ministry—meeting workbook for august 1-7, 2016. it is in the little supplemental page considered this week under the title “improving our skills in the ministry—helping bible students to progress to dedication and baptism,” in the first paragraph (labelled “why important”), third sentence.
here is that sentence:.
“a christian’s dedication is to jehovah—not to a human, a work, or an organization.”.
But God chose the GB don't you know?
So, because they are his direct channel, it is as if he himself is talking through them....
BUT, that therefore means that God GOT THINGS WRONG SO MANY TIMES, and must be prone to mistakes....