fate, chance, divine retribution or sh*t happens?.
so i described a cordial conversation with my jw wife and super-duper jw mil last week in which they encouraged me to ‘return to jehovah’.
i told them that i would not be fooled thrice.. later that week we were discussing a fine mutual jw friend, ‘brother x’, that met with a very untimely death.
That reasoning of witnesses simply falls apart with just the slightest bit of logical thought...
They want their cake and eat it too!
If something bad happens, then it is "time and unforseen occurrence".
Or if it happens and can be spun as a marketing tool for the society, then they will twist it...
while i am not able to recall them all at this time, i remember so many instances that when a number was quoted in the bible, especially large numbers, they were all "rounded up" to the nearest hundred or thousand.
for instance the angel killed 185,000 syrians, not 184,879. sampson killed a thousand men with the jawbone of an ass, not 961. and on and on on the even rounded numbers.
i would guess that it could be agues that these numbers were correct but is that realistic?
Great thread!
Yet another nail in the coffin / straw to break the camels back etc....
All that believers can say is : " well, the bible says it is inspired of God and true, so it MUST be true!"
this week they finish up a chapter in the "imitate their faith" book about peter.
they cover the account of jesus walking on water.
in the story peter also walks on the water out to jesus.
Well said Smiddy!
wednesday, august 10. holy spirit has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of god.—acts 20:28.. it is important that we show appreciation for god’s arrangement for shepherding his flock.
christian elders are a provision from jehovah, who always acts in our best interests.
the elders are “like a hiding place from the wind, a place of concealment from the rainstorm, like streams of water in a waterless land, like the shadow of a massive crag in a parched land.” (isa.
Yes indeed daringhart13!
I can verify that many times over! Oh the stories I could share about the way some elders spoke about members of the "flock"!
I pulled one up once by saying "do you think we should be so quick to judge our 'poor flaxen wicks and crushed reeds' in the congregation? We don't know their circumstances, and even if we did, we should always be kind!"
That was the beginning of the end for how I was treated by the rest of the body...
hi everyone to cut a long story short, ive been away from the meetings for over 10 years.
i recently reconnected with the congregation and started a study.
cant get my head around all the changes and jw broadcasting.
Nobody can!
The broadcasting and videos are really odd, and smacks of cult-like behaviour.
Run now....
By the way, Welcome to the forum!
a number of public statements by the governing body indicate that they are experiencing financial difficulty and they have appealed to jws to donate more money.
public information on the financial situation of the watchtower society is limited.
but what does the information they do publish indicate about their situation?
What a rebellious and critical spirit you show by such analysis brother!
You obviously lack faith that Jesus is using the GB as his direct spokesman and channel...so whatever they spend is completely ok!
You almost sound ...wait for it..... Like an apostate!
wednesday, august 10. holy spirit has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of god.—acts 20:28.. it is important that we show appreciation for god’s arrangement for shepherding his flock.
christian elders are a provision from jehovah, who always acts in our best interests.
the elders are “like a hiding place from the wind, a place of concealment from the rainstorm, like streams of water in a waterless land, like the shadow of a massive crag in a parched land.” (isa.
Every text can be summed up as:
OBEY THE GB!
this week they finish up a chapter in the "imitate their faith" book about peter.
they cover the account of jesus walking on water.
in the story peter also walks on the water out to jesus.
If the boreans didn't use their intellectual capabilities and "doubts", they wouldn't have been praised in the bible.....
so last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
They are breaching appropriate boundaries.
They are breaching appropriate boundaries.!
Remember, the only power they have over you is that which you allow . So don't allow them any power over you.
i need some ideas to raise money for my study research trip for west africa in cape coast ghana..
Hard work
