Facts like dates etc dont matter to the average witness.
They don't actually think about anything deep, except for "this is the truth"
stuckinarut2
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The 1914 doctrine: How long it will last?
by opusdei1972 inone hundred years have passed and the society still supports this lie, which of course, is the basis of their other lies, like that of the unfaithful and not discreet slave appointed in 1919. however, i wonder, what will happen after 50 years, when the overlapped generation will pass?.
and if you want, what will happen with this religion in 2100?, could it survive with the same lie??
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meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN
by LevelThePlayingField ini still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.
so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.
now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.
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stuckinarut2
A famous quote was said by Aldous Huxley :
" facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored "
In watchtower land, that is not true Sadly!
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meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN
by LevelThePlayingField ini still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.
so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.
now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.
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stuckinarut2
Yes you just experienced a "reality check" as many of us have done over the years
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See the new Dutch assembly hall
by Anders Andersen in...it looks like a generic, easy to sell barn hall.. https://youtu.be/eqwrfhbbqwy.
nothing like the old hall it's built next to.. the small room in the video is the indoctrination education center.. the building is completed one year ahead of schedule.
my guess: it's either much simpler than they originally planned, and/or they had more volunteers because nothing else is being built.. video is dutch, but nothing interesting is said anyway..
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stuckinarut2
Looks like a basketball / sports hall!
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How the Present G.B. Deceives its Followers/Readers....................
by The Searcher in............into believing that inferred "statements" are actual facts, while never stating anything!
w07 1/1 p. 28 pars.
11,12 "the first resurrection"—now under way!
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stuckinarut2
And yet they will say "we NEVER actually said blah blah.... It was just some overly keen ones jumping to conclusions"
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meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN
by LevelThePlayingField ini still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.
so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.
now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.
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stuckinarut2
The very fact that you are being harassed because of your observations PROVES the cult-like nature of the society!
If it was not a high control cult, one would be free to say whatever is on one's mind.
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Shunning vs. Silent Treatment
by raven ini was thinking this morning in context with the shunning practice- which we all know is a degrading and abusive routine carried out among all brainwashed jw's to those who have sinned/left the org etc.. so with that in mind, how does shunning differ from the silent treatment to jw's?
both are similar in definition... silent treatment.
: an act of completely ignoring a person or thing by resort to silence especially as a means of expressing contempt or disapproval.shun, shunning: persistently avoid, ignore, or reject (someone or something) through antipathy or caution.based on jw teachings which i stupidly accepted back when i was asleep and under mind control, i didn't give it two thoughts on how both acts are related.. i do remember an article in a wt which spoke of how the silent treatment is a harsh and abusive form of discipline, but then they twist it back and claim that shunning is a loving provision?
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stuckinarut2
Great thread!
Excellent observation. Yes, to ignore or shun someone is an immature act. The society even had that cartoon drawing video on its web-site for teenagers that showed young ones at school ignoring someone. They labelled that as "bullying"!
So, WHY cant they see that they as a society practice "bullying" in order to manipulate ones into submission and obedience?
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Is changing the "truth" / presenting "new light" really so bad?
by Zana inplaying devil's advocate here.... what's the difference between the gb changing bible interpretations compared to parliaments all over the world changing laws?
although the us constitution (=bible) remains untouched, congress passes i don't know how many new laws every year.
and of course people are expected to follow them.
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stuckinarut2
Changing things is not the only issue
The MAIN issue is the way the society hides the past, or tries to cover over the past details for the new generation of witnesses!
They don't take ownership, or ever say "WE WERE WRONG. SORRY!"
The day they say SORRY will be the day Antarctica melts..
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stuckinarut2
Many boxers DO have brain damage issues....
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The Real Reason why the WT predicted Armageddon in 1975
by OrphanCrow ini am of the opinion that the wt doctrine is influenced more by external factors that it is by internal ones.
one of the doctrines that has puzzled me for some time is the armageddon prediction of 1975. why would the wts make this prediction?
what was their real purpose?.
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stuckinarut2
It certainly had the effect of "thinning the heard" and ensuring that those who bought into the hysteria were going to be ever-loyal witnesses!
Those who saw the fact that they went beyond the scriptures (no man knows the day or hour not even the son), simply faded or left!