is remaining ignorant about the society a choice?.
surely every witness has a moment in time when "something just doesn't seem right"?
perhaps a teaching, doctrine, an article, a talk, a news report about child abuse handling, or a jwdubdotorg broadcast, a video, a cartoon for the kids....you know....?.
Nicolaou: However, it's hard to sympathize with persons who choose not to investigate the central tenets of their faith or, even worse, perform the investigation and ignore the plain facts
You make a great point here nicolaou! Especially as witnesses try and make everyone in the community evaluate and research their religious faith and background! But that same deep investigation is NOT encouraged into the society's past!
as if anymore proof were needed that what used to be the religion i was baptized into has ceased to exist i was asked this insane question, when i mentioned to a jdub that someone i knew was celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary.
are they witnesses?".
i didn't used to really think about that insane question in the past, but now that i have woke up to ttatt it is glaringly obvious that they think there can be no chance of actually knowing and getting along with anyone outside their tiny circle of conditional friends.
Yes, the classic way to speak about ones we know (friends) who are not witnesses is to say "an aquaintance I know" rather than "a good friend of mine"
Witnesses cant say they have friend unless that friend is a witness...
never a jw.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6289070416199680/dressed-up-five-days-ahead-special-assembly-puerto-rico.
an hour ago i went to bid good bye my two brothers in law and their wives (all elders/elderettes).
So if it now OK to use a blatantly worldly / pagan song as long as the words are changed, then how about these options?
"We wish you a merry convention"
"Dude looks like a pioneer"
"My lovely lady pioneer shoes"
counterfeit christian beliefs can only be discovered with a close look.
the problem with anything counterfeit is that it looks genuine even under close scrutiny.
us 100 dollar bill is the most counterfeit currency, some of the best bank staff have trouble sorting genuine from real.
The watchtower society, or JW.org is not a counterfeit Christian religion! Just ask them, and they will tell you that they alone are the TRUE Christians...
Bumped for a "new generation" of overlapping forum members....
for any who may be fading, or trying to break free from the society, or those who fear how things will transpire , please do yourself a favour and watch this video!.
it is long, but worth the investment in time, for it will help in many ways.. its called "coming out" by theramin trees, and for those who "come out" about recognising the truth of the society, it will help.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mj-8ocmtb_8.
For all who have not yet invested the time into watching this video, please do so...
is remaining ignorant about the society a choice?.
surely every witness has a moment in time when "something just doesn't seem right"?
perhaps a teaching, doctrine, an article, a talk, a news report about child abuse handling, or a jwdubdotorg broadcast, a video, a cartoon for the kids....you know....?.
Sorry 'a watcher', but the society says in no uncertain terms that the ONLY way to have that 'relationship with Jehovah and Jesus" is to be part of their 'earthly organization'.
The organisation 'speaks for god' so we have always been told!
So have 'Jehovah and jesus' been getting things wrong?
i showed the video from the midweek meeting of september 12th to my counselor to get her take on it.
she said that it clearly was a propaganda video and was appalled that it was shown to an audience that had small children in it.
she said that they could have been way more generic in their way of portraying the women as having been abused.. the subject of sexual abuse and the way the video zeroed in on it would have small children asking questions that really did not need to be addressed.
The society would gain so much more if they just did this:
In one of the videos, make a comment such as:
"aren't we thankful that Jehovah has helped us to see that even his followers have not always handled matters in the best possible way over the years"
"We are so appreciative that we have been assisted in this modern age to make adjustments and changes. Yes, we apologise for the way some matters have been mishandled, but we trust that as we move closer to the new world, Jehovah will continually help us to get closer to his perfect standards!"
i'm wondering if the borg actually studied mind control and coercion tactics deliberately or wether they just evolved over time through trial and error.
from reading steve hassans books, studying hypnosis and methods psychopaths use it all seems very complex.
like it would never occur to me to do a, b and c in the right order at the right time in order to get control of someone or control their lives.. for example, repetition of words (the word "loyalty" was a big one in the last convention), using loaded language, encouraging people not to trust their own thoughts, restricting their information, demonising those who leave etc.
Actually finkelstein, your points are very good! Well said.
is remaining ignorant about the society a choice?.
surely every witness has a moment in time when "something just doesn't seem right"?
perhaps a teaching, doctrine, an article, a talk, a news report about child abuse handling, or a jwdubdotorg broadcast, a video, a cartoon for the kids....you know....?.
Is remaining ignorant about the society a choice?
Surely every witness has a moment in time when "something just doesn't seem right"? Perhaps a teaching, doctrine, an article, a talk, a news report about child abuse handling, or a jwdubdotorg broadcast, a video, a cartoon for the kids....you know....?
So, do we choose to remain ignorant. Do we choose to just say "oh it must be ok because the GB are always correct"?
Or in this day and age of easily accessible facts to research, do we allow themselves to dig a little deeper AS THE BIBLE ITSELF ENCOURAGES all to do.? After all, the very nature of our lives are dependent on facts.
Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored....
