Posts by stuckinarut2

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Amazing new graph - publisher increase compared to country population increase rates

by jwfacts in

world population growth rate is 1.13%, whilst jehovah's witness average publishers grew by 1.8%.

watchtower growth is outpacing population growth, though at a dismal rate considering the 2 billion hours of preaching required for an increase of just 115,194. this is an aggregate number, and most growth is from developing nations in africa and south america.

what i was really interested in finding is how watchtower growth compares to the population growth in different countries.

stuckinarut2

Also, numbers of ones coming in is one thing, but the QUALITY of such ones needs to be taken into account.

The fact is that most coming in don't even meet the "high spiritual standards" of "the perfect witness" according to the GB guidelines.

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Are baptized Witnesses that are no longer in the "truth", but were NEVER DF'D, now to be shunned and treated like disfellowshipped ones?

by Dunedain in

a relative of mine was telling me, that in his, and a few neighboring congregations, there is a little confusion amongst some of the jw's about this "issue".

some families are having a hard time about whether certain relatives will be attending certain family functions, because some family members that are no longer in the "truth", might be invited to these functions.

mind you, these persons were never disfellowshipped.

stuckinarut2

Yes, it is a fact.

The 2016 convention had several talks that warned against associating with ANY who have become inactive, or faded..as well as "less spiritual ones" still in the congregation.

The level of control and paranoia has reached an all time high amongst witnesses, and it has come directly from the GB

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If "the Truth" is the truth, why are witnesses so scared of research?

by stuckinarut2 in

it is an often asked question i know, but it perplexes me.. if witnesses are so convinced that they have "the truth", why is the act of researching information from external sources so taboo?

didn't the bible itself tell people to "use their powers of reason" and also praised ones like the boreans for researching things they were told??.

seriously, if there is no doubt about the organization being "god's channel" on earth, and it alone having the "truth", surely researching would only enhance such 'facts'?.

stuckinarut2

It is an often asked question I know, but it perplexes me.

If witnesses are so convinced that they have "the Truth", why is the act of researching information from external sources so taboo? Didn't the bible itself tell people to "use their powers of reason" and also praised ones like the Boreans for researching things they were told??

Seriously, if there is no doubt about the organization being "god's channel" on earth, and it alone having the "truth", surely researching would only ENHANCE such 'facts'?

Thoughts??

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Leaving story

by leavingeverythingbehind in

i've been following this forum for a couple of years now, but it's only just now that i've decided to register.

it's been quite a long and strenous process leaving the org, having been borned and raised in and spent so much time in.

i'm so gratefull there's the internet these days which helps new people find their way out of this and other religions.

stuckinarut2

WELCOME!

You have actually taken a strong and commendable step to stand up for what is right, and to decisively cut ties with a society that is not healthy.

Be proud of the strength this took!
You are amongst many like minded people who saw the need to no longer be passive supporters of the organization.

Much love to you!

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Young People Ask... When Can I Start Dating?

by pale.emperor in

quite possibly the most annoying and patronizing thing i've read in years.

comments of mine are in yellow.. .

she doesn't trust herself to make her own decisions and she's going to wait years even after she thinks she's ready.

stuckinarut2

The society is responsible for messing up the emotional state and in turn life choices of SO many thousands of young ones over the years!

The Guilt they are burdened with is phenomenal!

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Amazing new graph - publisher increase compared to country population increase rates

by jwfacts in

world population growth rate is 1.13%, whilst jehovah's witness average publishers grew by 1.8%.

watchtower growth is outpacing population growth, though at a dismal rate considering the 2 billion hours of preaching required for an increase of just 115,194. this is an aggregate number, and most growth is from developing nations in africa and south america.

what i was really interested in finding is how watchtower growth compares to the population growth in different countries.

stuckinarut2

Great info.

So much for "Jehovah speeding up the ingathering"....

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Wife is Awake

by freemindfade in

following the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.

i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.

i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.

stuckinarut2

Wow FMF, the reasons that moved your wife are SO similar to my wife!

Yes, I am SURE there are many more waking up due to such issues.

As my wife used to say when she was trying to reconcile if it was still the truth "Perhaps this is Jehovah 'refining' or 'cleaning up' his people"?

Now she just says "this is proof that it is not Jehovah's organization!"

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TV commercial seen in the United States, from a Law firm "Asking if you were ever sexually abused by JEHOVAHS WITNESSES, please call".

by Dunedain in

ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.

if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.

however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.

stuckinarut2

Didn't Jesus supposedly say "By their fruits you will recognise them"

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Sisters as Ministerial Servants?

by Spoletta in

my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.

she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.

anyone else pick up on this?

stuckinarut2

This MAY be a reference to the proposal that the Judge and Legal team of the Australian Royal Commission made.

Namely, they strongly suggested that the organization should make provision for "qualified women" to sit in the investigative and supportive roles if a case of child or sexual abuse was to arise.

They said it was wholly inappropriate for three men to be the ones to hear such sensitive matters. They said that it would be far better for a woman to assist in such situations.

Of course, as Jackson said "there would be no room for Females to be appointed to a role of an elder or ms"

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Are there any doctrines which all Christian religions follow.

by jwfacts in

i cannot think of a single doctrine that is so clearly laid out in the bible that every christian sect teaches the same point.

are there any doctrine where there is total consensus amongst all christian religions, including jehovah's witnesses?.

stuckinarut2

How about the concept of "Guilt"?

All religions, especially Christian ones subscribe to Guilt and Sin as being an integral part of life, and one that requires divine interaction to solve or "forgive"