Wow! Great replies everyone!
This topic has certainly struck a few raw nerves.
Thanks for your comments!
how do you view your upbringing as a witness?.
most of us who were raised as witnesses would appreciate that some aspects of our upbringing were ok. a foundation and measure of stability came with it.. but, it struck me too, that we also lost so very much!
and we lost a lot of potential.. by this i mean, we need to look at not just what we lost, or what was deprived of us, but what that ended up costing us as adults into the future.. if i take $10 from you, you have lost just $10.. but, if you were going to use that $10 to buy something that would end up earning you $1000, then i actually took $1000 from you!.
Wow! Great replies everyone!
This topic has certainly struck a few raw nerves.
Thanks for your comments!
in a post re dates etc from fatfreek reference was made to huge library at bethel with items dating back to pastor rs day.
like the year 1975 which has vanished from wt theology, are gb using move to let them put all old and inconvenient items into some sort of cold storage and off library shelves.
already the revelation book has gone from the orgs website, and that was quite recent relatively, we studied it 3 times at congregation book study, yet now, like type and antitype it mysteriously was never there.
Well every Kingdom Hall was told by the branch , that their library was to be reduced to publications from 1980 onwards only.
I know for a fact that several boxes of old books, including studies in the scriptures were thrown into the rubbish by the then presiding overseer of the local hall during a working day.
I objected to this "destruction of our spiritual heritage", and kept a large box of the books. That was the beginning of my awakening, as I gradually read many of those publications! Now I understand why they wanted them destroyed! The stuff in them was embarrassing and crazy!
attending for family reasons, and listen in "oversee" modus to the many comments during the watchtower study.. in my opinion it was a self help article on the subject stress amongst the flock.. leave it all to jehovah and help your self with the bullet points.. what i noticed from the comments is the lot of stress mentioned.
comments after comment they told how they handle their problems.
it is a real toppic amongst them.
It is a classic case of the cognitive dissonance playing its part on their mental health.
Also, when part of an organization that constantly feeds them with information about "how CLOSE mass destruction is" and how "BAD these LAST days are"...it starts to take its toll!
Witnesses need to be told: Life is NOT all bad! It is what we make of it!
i have had it confirmed now, that since stopping attending over 18 months ago, the elders have set out to deliberately ruin my name and character .. they have been talking to every witness from the local area and saying things like "be careful of him, he has the ability to implant thoughts in your minds, and he only pretends to be kind and caring".
so, all i have to say to them is, "bravo!
if that is the method you want to employ, you have reached the very depths of bad behaviour!".
I have had it confirmed now, that since stopping attending over 18 months ago, the elders have set out to deliberately ruin my name and character .
They have been talking to every witness from the local area and saying things like "be careful of him, he has the ability to implant thoughts in your minds, and he only pretends to be kind and caring"
So, all I have to say to them is, "Bravo! If that is the method you want to employ, you have reached the very depths of bad behaviour!"
I have always been known as the kind, helpful and caring one in the congregation. One who has gone out his way all his life to help everyone as they needed it. You name it, I have taken pride in helping out as I could.
I have never attempted to subvert the minds of other witnesses with the facts we have discovered about the society! If a witness wants to research things, they can do that for themselves. I have no intention of running around saying anything.
So now, the elders have systematically ruined my good name, as many were asking them about us. (funny though, no one tried to say hi for themselves!)
And yet, those cowardly elders have never once spoken to me!
This behaviour is disgusting...and is a true sign of the cult like nature of the society!
how do you view your upbringing as a witness?.
most of us who were raised as witnesses would appreciate that some aspects of our upbringing were ok. a foundation and measure of stability came with it.. but, it struck me too, that we also lost so very much!
and we lost a lot of potential.. by this i mean, we need to look at not just what we lost, or what was deprived of us, but what that ended up costing us as adults into the future.. if i take $10 from you, you have lost just $10.. but, if you were going to use that $10 to buy something that would end up earning you $1000, then i actually took $1000 from you!.
How do you view your upbringing as a witness?
Most of us who were raised as witnesses would appreciate that some aspects of our upbringing were ok. A foundation and measure of stability came with it.
But, it struck me too, that we also lost so very much! AND we lost a lot of POTENTIAL.
By this I mean, we need to look at not just what we lost, or what was deprived of us, but what that ended up costing us as adults into the future.
If I take $10 from you, you have lost just $10.
BUT, if you were going to use that $10 to buy something that would end up earning you $1000, then I actually took $1000 from you!
I believe it is the same with being raised as a witness. The way we were all discouraged from higher education for example, or discouraged from charity work, or community social activities such as team sports, ended up costing us all MUCH more in the end.
Thoughts?
have you seen this?
$88 million?????
:-o x. https://therealdeal.com/2017/02/14/clipper-to-buy-bk-rental-from-jehovahs-witnesses-for-88m/#.wkquplzkego.twitter.
Haha...they got less than expected.
That's hilarious....
just read some of this latest awake on the org's webshite.. it begins by talking about the 'supernatural' - wizards, witches, vampires, etc.
- their popularity and why they might appeal to people.
then it goes on to state the wt belief that someone is 'behind it'.. now, i like a few horror/scary films - when i was a kid, i always actually liked being a bit scared by them, tbh.. the silence of the lambs, a nightmare on elm street (1984), the ring, the witch, the thing (1982) and a few others are all great, imo.. they are just genres and subgenres of film, that's all.
Um, hang on now!
If the society really wants to ban all such stuff, then there is an abundance of "horror and violence" within the BIBLE itself!
Have they just forgotten that stuff?
you know, there are some studies that are painful to sit through because of the blatant lies or bull shite spewing from the platform.
then there are those that seem to have no reason for even taking place.. such was the case for last nights congregation bible study.. all it did was talk about how many books and magazines have been published over the years and "aren't we wonderful that we print so much stuff"?
this is a study into important biblical things?
Yep...It has wisely been said : "Self praise, is NO praise!"
And yet the flock just does not see it!
the yearly rejection of the blood of christ aka jw memorial is coming soon.. jw's will be engaging in an invitation campaign.
elders are instructed to personally visit inactive ones or faders.
some sarcastic ideas of how to respond to the memorial invitation that will scare or piss off the cult members:.
"The memorial is all about recognition of how sinful we are as humans and how we need Jesus sacrifice to pay back our debt right? So, considering how much guilt the society and GB have accumulated, will his sacrifice cover it all ok?
Then stand back and watch their faces go red with anger.
the yearly rejection of the blood of christ aka jw memorial is coming soon.. jw's will be engaging in an invitation campaign.
elders are instructed to personally visit inactive ones or faders.
some sarcastic ideas of how to respond to the memorial invitation that will scare or piss off the cult members:.
Awesome replies!!
I would LOVE to use number 4 from the opening post!