Wow! That made it onto youtube?
That congregation has an APOSTATE in its midst!
haha...its laughable really. The stream is supposed to remain confidential, and is only for "approved" ones to access.
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kingdom hall south dakota live stream.....i found this video on youtube.com.
it reminds me of my old kingdom hall where hardly anyone is sitting in the front rows and doesn't seem like they have a large membership.most kingdom halls sit around 200 people at the most and seem to have a hard time filling the seats.. my old congregation had around 45 members when i left 4 years ago.we always seemed to have a hard time meeting the monthly expenses.some months,i was told that some elders would contribute extra money so the congregation would not be in the negative for the month.. how many members did your congregation have while you were still attending and did meet its expenses for the month?.
Wow! That made it onto youtube?
That congregation has an APOSTATE in its midst!
haha...its laughable really. The stream is supposed to remain confidential, and is only for "approved" ones to access.
i have had it confirmed now, that since stopping attending over 18 months ago, the elders have set out to deliberately ruin my name and character .. they have been talking to every witness from the local area and saying things like "be careful of him, he has the ability to implant thoughts in your minds, and he only pretends to be kind and caring".
so, all i have to say to them is, "bravo!
if that is the method you want to employ, you have reached the very depths of bad behaviour!".
Well said ToesUp! We agree wholeheartedly with your comments.
Thankyou
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australian associated press.
And the society has taken measures to ensure it can play the "sorry, we don't have any money" card when the penalties are called in!
i have had it confirmed now, that since stopping attending over 18 months ago, the elders have set out to deliberately ruin my name and character .. they have been talking to every witness from the local area and saying things like "be careful of him, he has the ability to implant thoughts in your minds, and he only pretends to be kind and caring".
so, all i have to say to them is, "bravo!
if that is the method you want to employ, you have reached the very depths of bad behaviour!".
Thanks for your supportive comments everyone.
Yes, I can ensure that despite this annoyance and slander, I will strive to maintain my dignity, poise and grace.
If others have allowed themselves to be influenced and change their view of my wife and I, well good luck to them. I feel sorry for them.
I guess that they really have no other option than to throw mud. Shamefully, some of it has stuck...
stephanie, just a warm thank you for going public and allowing us to look into your personal and private life.
congratulations on your victory.
in a better world there would be no need to pursue such a cause, therefore congrats are tempered with unfortunate reality.
Well said!
how do you view your upbringing as a witness?.
most of us who were raised as witnesses would appreciate that some aspects of our upbringing were ok. a foundation and measure of stability came with it.. but, it struck me too, that we also lost so very much!
and we lost a lot of potential.. by this i mean, we need to look at not just what we lost, or what was deprived of us, but what that ended up costing us as adults into the future.. if i take $10 from you, you have lost just $10.. but, if you were going to use that $10 to buy something that would end up earning you $1000, then i actually took $1000 from you!.
Wow! Great replies everyone!
This topic has certainly struck a few raw nerves.
Thanks for your comments!
in a post re dates etc from fatfreek reference was made to huge library at bethel with items dating back to pastor rs day.
like the year 1975 which has vanished from wt theology, are gb using move to let them put all old and inconvenient items into some sort of cold storage and off library shelves.
already the revelation book has gone from the orgs website, and that was quite recent relatively, we studied it 3 times at congregation book study, yet now, like type and antitype it mysteriously was never there.
Well every Kingdom Hall was told by the branch , that their library was to be reduced to publications from 1980 onwards only.
I know for a fact that several boxes of old books, including studies in the scriptures were thrown into the rubbish by the then presiding overseer of the local hall during a working day.
I objected to this "destruction of our spiritual heritage", and kept a large box of the books. That was the beginning of my awakening, as I gradually read many of those publications! Now I understand why they wanted them destroyed! The stuff in them was embarrassing and crazy!
attending for family reasons, and listen in "oversee" modus to the many comments during the watchtower study.. in my opinion it was a self help article on the subject stress amongst the flock.. leave it all to jehovah and help your self with the bullet points.. what i noticed from the comments is the lot of stress mentioned.
comments after comment they told how they handle their problems.
it is a real toppic amongst them.
It is a classic case of the cognitive dissonance playing its part on their mental health.
Also, when part of an organization that constantly feeds them with information about "how CLOSE mass destruction is" and how "BAD these LAST days are"...it starts to take its toll!
Witnesses need to be told: Life is NOT all bad! It is what we make of it!
i have had it confirmed now, that since stopping attending over 18 months ago, the elders have set out to deliberately ruin my name and character .. they have been talking to every witness from the local area and saying things like "be careful of him, he has the ability to implant thoughts in your minds, and he only pretends to be kind and caring".
so, all i have to say to them is, "bravo!
if that is the method you want to employ, you have reached the very depths of bad behaviour!".
I have had it confirmed now, that since stopping attending over 18 months ago, the elders have set out to deliberately ruin my name and character .
They have been talking to every witness from the local area and saying things like "be careful of him, he has the ability to implant thoughts in your minds, and he only pretends to be kind and caring"
So, all I have to say to them is, "Bravo! If that is the method you want to employ, you have reached the very depths of bad behaviour!"
I have always been known as the kind, helpful and caring one in the congregation. One who has gone out his way all his life to help everyone as they needed it. You name it, I have taken pride in helping out as I could.
I have never attempted to subvert the minds of other witnesses with the facts we have discovered about the society! If a witness wants to research things, they can do that for themselves. I have no intention of running around saying anything.
So now, the elders have systematically ruined my good name, as many were asking them about us. (funny though, no one tried to say hi for themselves!)
And yet, those cowardly elders have never once spoken to me!
This behaviour is disgusting...and is a true sign of the cult like nature of the society!
how do you view your upbringing as a witness?.
most of us who were raised as witnesses would appreciate that some aspects of our upbringing were ok. a foundation and measure of stability came with it.. but, it struck me too, that we also lost so very much!
and we lost a lot of potential.. by this i mean, we need to look at not just what we lost, or what was deprived of us, but what that ended up costing us as adults into the future.. if i take $10 from you, you have lost just $10.. but, if you were going to use that $10 to buy something that would end up earning you $1000, then i actually took $1000 from you!.
How do you view your upbringing as a witness?
Most of us who were raised as witnesses would appreciate that some aspects of our upbringing were ok. A foundation and measure of stability came with it.
But, it struck me too, that we also lost so very much! AND we lost a lot of POTENTIAL.
By this I mean, we need to look at not just what we lost, or what was deprived of us, but what that ended up costing us as adults into the future.
If I take $10 from you, you have lost just $10.
BUT, if you were going to use that $10 to buy something that would end up earning you $1000, then I actually took $1000 from you!
I believe it is the same with being raised as a witness. The way we were all discouraged from higher education for example, or discouraged from charity work, or community social activities such as team sports, ended up costing us all MUCH more in the end.
Thoughts?