Eye fillet steak ...
Oh, but hang on, we wont be eating meat in the "new world" now will we....
i'll start: stilton cheese.. (it was a toss up between that and sweet pickled beetroot).. thank you folks..
Eye fillet steak ...
Oh, but hang on, we wont be eating meat in the "new world" now will we....
well new to me anyway, i'm sure someone smarter than me has thought of this before.
the next time i get asked the perennial (and tired old) question: “but you do believe that the gb are god’s channel of communication, the organisation he is using, don’t you?” or some variation thereof, i am going to reply with two verses and reason as follows:.
the matter to be established: have the gb of jehovah’s witnesses received divine appointment to act as god’s representatives and channel of communication on earth?.
Great thread!
(oh and don't worry Unstuck, you can apply for re-instatement again....and then we can try that question once more...)
it's funny as i reflect back on my days as a witness during the watchtower study.
it seems like no matter what the question asked.
it was like parrots squawking back exactly what they had just heard with absolutely no thought or even the slightest expression of free will.
Yes, great thread.
There is NO tolerance of any 'extra' information being presented during a WT study. If someone does research and tries to present it, that one is made to feel awkward.
The only acceptable answer is a repeated comment (in "your own words") of the same stuff that was just read out!
When we really think about it, it is a huge waste of time! It could be read at home!
BUT the beauty of it is the "group bias" that it creates, as witnesses see and hear a large number of people around them "agree" with the presented information...thus making it seem more valid
even thinking about born-ins here.
at what stage of your 'bible teaching' were you taught about the practice of disfellowshipping?.
reading john cedars book and the section about when the more crazy shit gets introduced to you is very telling.
Well said Joe and steve2!
Yes, the org has masterfully and manipulatively made it seem that only "WICKED SINNERS" would ever require DFing.
The facts are that many, if not most leave because they simply wake up to the TRUTH about the society.
They don't become evil sinners at all
Welcome back!
being in "the truth" forever, i keep (frustratingly) finding myself humming kingdom songs unintentionally.
it frustrates me when i find myself doing it!.
so today i got this song in my head, and couldn't get it unstuck, so i decided to write alternate lyrics to it... when i get that tune in my head now, i'll have words that work!
Bumped for a new "overlapping generation" of forum members!
i thought this was a good video showing how the logic is faulty from the gb.
just bare with lett for a minute.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1otsrp0bp4.
Great choice of song in the background!
11 march 2017. dear governing body of jehovah's witnesses,.
could you please introduce the phrase "spiritual generation" to replace the phrase "overlapping generation".
it would save us all a lot of confusion.. an online search of your publications dating back to 2000 showed that this term has never been used.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q="spiritual+generation"&p=par.
I saw a sister post apicture on Instagram proudly showing "four generations" of family "in the truth" (grandparents, children, great grandchildren....)
I was SO tempted to add a comment : "dont you mean ONE OVERLAPPING generation?"
when the arc made their recommendations to the society last year i genuinely thought we'd see some real changes.
oh sure, i expected a lot of feet dragging, double talk, and general nonsense - but at the end of the day i was certain the society would do what they legally had to and then run around claiming:.
) these new policies and procedures aren't really new we've always done them.
Yes, very sad.
As much as I loathe the organisation, I didn't think they would be so stupid and conduct themselves in such an antagonistic and evasive manner.
However the level of contempt they have shown is proof that they truely need to be brought to task.
I sincerely hope that they face tangible, punitive punishment!
so a few months ago, a friend sent me an actual copy of finished mystery which was published in 1917 (not a pdf download... the actual book).
i must say, this was the most disturbing book i have ever had the displeasure of reading.
but i only read it because this was the main publication that was being distributed worldwide when jesus supposedly chose the watchtower in 1918 and i basically wanted to see for myself what jesus saw in the wt that would compel him to choose this religious corporation over all other religious denominations.. anyway, if anyone is interested in knowing the actual contents of this book, here are some bullet points i put together from some of the notes i took as i read the book:.
Crazyguy, you asked if anyone has a copy of the book?
Annoyingly, the hall we used to attend threw out all the old books! I was so amazed that they would try and throw away such "theocratic history". I kept the book and read it cover to cover before returning it.
To think that anyone thought that this was "gods channel" is simply mind blowing!