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  Is ignorance an excuse?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have always maintained that i hold nothing personally against individual witnesses, even those that have actively slandered our name and reputation based on the actions of some individuals.. i have often said that all these ones, (even the ones spreading gossip), are victims of the culture of the organization, and the directions of the gb.. but recently i have been rethinking this, and wonder if ignorance is really an acceptable excuse?.

  i mean, with so much information now readily available about the society, its origins, its scandals, issues and conduct, is it simply ok for a witness to remain wilfully ignorant about the organization that dictates every aspect of their lives?.

  is ignorance an excuse?.

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  Great thoughts and comments!

  Thankyou all.
  
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  WT Scours Internet

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  interesting thread on another site.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5zinu6/our_leakers_are_to_be_commended_from_the_recent/.

  wt must have devoted a certain amount of resources to this - at least on a daily basis..

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  The real question is WHY ALL THE SECRECY?

  The society is showing itself up as a high control cult by the very nature of such "secret letters".

  The excuse used by the brothers at the ARC that these documents as "audience appropriate" simply doesn't cut it!
  
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  My older brother has stopped his bible study

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  good news people.

  my older brother has abruptly stopped his bible study with the witnesses.

  he was part-time shunning me during his study and his behavior was beginning to change into cult mode but he was thankfully woken up.

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  Awesome news!
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  It seems that many witnesses simply dont care about facts?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i often wonder if the current crop of witnesses, especially the youth and younger ones simply don't care about facts?.

  i mean for some, even with knowledge of the past scandals, misleading teachings, mistruths, etc etc, they simply don't care.

  "it is the truth after all".. they are so intertwined in the operations and activities of the society, that they cant see anything outside of it.

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  I often wonder if the current crop of witnesses, especially the youth and younger ones simply don't care about facts?

  I mean for some, even with knowledge of the past scandals, misleading teachings, mistruths, etc etc, they simply don't care. "It is the TRUTH after all".

  They are so intertwined in the operations and activities of the society, that they cant see anything outside of it. They are being fulfilled emotionally by the involvement, that they cant entertain anything except that life.
  

  It seems that the level of attachment goes far beyond logical facts.

  It is no different to people who passionately follow a sporting team. They loyally back them despite the times when the team is doing really badly, or is having issues or scandals with their management or players. My team (or country) Right or Wrong.

  Facts simply don't make a difference unless they CHOOSE to open their minds.
  
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  Were You Ever A True Believer?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was raised in the religion and for the most part believed that my religion was truth.

  i recognized some mistakes were occasionally made but felt that nobody is perfect.

  then i smartened up and realized how dumb so many of the beliefs are....was there ever a time that you truly believed you had the "truth"?.

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  I was raised in "the truth".

  It was "the truth" simply because it was "the truth"... Circular reasoning at its finest...

  Anything I didn't understand was either my fault, or I was not spiritual enough to get it.

  As for other topics that were not clear, "wait on Jehovah to explain in Due time" was the standard response...and I was satisfied with that...

  Sadly....
  
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  Article: Jehovah’s Witnesses refuse to change two-witness rule because ‘that’s our stand’

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/jehovahs-witnesses-refuse-to-change-twowitness-rule-because-thats-our-stand/news-story/ee1f5bdd2561d99f6d1f608f039ee200.

  jehovah’s witnesses refuse to change two-witness rule because ‘that’s our stand’.

  rohan smithnews.com.au.

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  And yet, as the ARC masterfully exposed, the Hebrew scriptures contain an account where a man could be stoned to death for raping a woman in a field WITH NO ONE ELSE present. In other words, NO 2nd witness!
  
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  Is ignorance an excuse?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have always maintained that i hold nothing personally against individual witnesses, even those that have actively slandered our name and reputation based on the actions of some individuals.. i have often said that all these ones, (even the ones spreading gossip), are victims of the culture of the organization, and the directions of the gb.. but recently i have been rethinking this, and wonder if ignorance is really an acceptable excuse?.

  i mean, with so much information now readily available about the society, its origins, its scandals, issues and conduct, is it simply ok for a witness to remain wilfully ignorant about the organization that dictates every aspect of their lives?.

  is ignorance an excuse?.

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  stuckinarut2

  I have always maintained that I hold nothing personally against individual witnesses, even those that have actively slandered our name and reputation based on the actions of some individuals.

  I have often said that all these ones, (even the ones spreading gossip), are victims of the culture of the organization, and the directions of the GB.

  But recently I have been rethinking this, and wonder if ignorance is really an acceptable excuse?

  I mean, with SO MUCH information now readily available about the society, its origins, its scandals, issues and conduct, is it simply ok for a witness to remain wilfully ignorant about the organization that dictates EVERY aspect of their lives?

  Is ignorance an excuse?
  
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  Propaganda video from the society. How are your donations used?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  oh wow....how manipulative, especially for young ones.. first prize goes to whoever can state the one aspect of society expenditure that this video fails to mention!.

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodourorganization/pub-jwbrd_201505_1_video.

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  Yep, it is just so easy for the society to say that donations go "to the worldwide work"....but what ACTUALLY is that??

  Where is the profit and loss report, or the annual financial report? ALL reputable organizations issue one of those....
  
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  More propaganda aimed at children! Visit Bethel!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  arrrghhh...... so much that can be said..... https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodourorganization/pub-jwbrd_201604_1_video.

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  Yes, while the org has Caleb and Sophia, the Mormons have Matt and Mandy

  https://www.lds.org/children/videos-music/matt-mandy?lang=eng
  
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  Propaganda video from the society. How are your donations used?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  oh wow....how manipulative, especially for young ones.. first prize goes to whoever can state the one aspect of society expenditure that this video fails to mention!.

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodourorganization/pub-jwbrd_201505_1_video.

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  stuckinarut2

  Oh wow....how manipulative, especially for young ones.

  First prize goes to whoever can state the one aspect of society expenditure that this video fails to mention!

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/VODOurOrganization/pub-jwbrd_201505_1_VIDEO