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  "Forced" study with an Elder - The first question i will pose, help appreciated.

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello folks.

  as some of you might know my dad couldnt keep quiet about my view of the world, so i have been "forced" to study with an elder.

  otherwise i would be dragged to questioning, which is to much pressure for a young inexperienced person like me.

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  Yes citizen, they can never dare to question "god's answers or direction" as a result of your prayers!

  Use that when it comes to any situation or topic.

  But make sure you come across sincere as you say it.
  
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  Effects of GB Manipulation

  by longgone in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  because the gb controls it's members by f.o.g does that affect former members to be easily manipulated by self serving people as they start a new life outside the borg?

  the definition of a manipulator according to the cambridge dictionary is a person who controls people to their own advantage, often unfairly or dishonestly.

  sounds familiar doesn't it?.

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  It is true that because we gave over control to the society, kind of like "Parental Figures" over us, that situation can occur. We can become gullible or easily manipulated by "parental figures".

  BUT, becoming aware of this situation means that we can be on guard against it.

  Awareness is half the battle.
  
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  "Forced" study with an Elder - The first question i will pose, help appreciated.

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello folks.

  as some of you might know my dad couldnt keep quiet about my view of the world, so i have been "forced" to study with an elder.

  otherwise i would be dragged to questioning, which is to much pressure for a young inexperienced person like me.

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  Always fall back on this type of statement:

  "I have made it a matter of sincere and earnest prayer, and Jehovah has clearly shown me that....(insert whatever you like)"

  That way, they can never belittle or argue your comment, because you PRAYED to Jehovah about it, and saw "his clear answer and direction" to your prayers....
  
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  Spiritual food from the org on the same level as the Bible?

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello to you all again.. i just told my father:"be carefull that you do not put the so called spiritual food at the same level, or on the same pedestal, as the bible.

  it is clear to me that they are not.

  " to me, at the moment, this is self evident.

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  Great comments Doubtfull1799!
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  Amazing Video, modern-day miracle: "Chairs for Thousands"

  by neat blue dog in

  1. social
  2. humour

  god provides.

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodourorganization/pub-jwb_201703_4_video.

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  So god can provide chairs, but cant stop typhoons?

  The very idea that they are promoting this as God's direction is so hypocritical!
  
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  How are midweek CLAM meetings solid spiritual food in ANY way?

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  besides the possibility that the theocratic ministry school was dropped to avoid the word 'school' appearing any longer for a.r.c child abuse reasons, the introduction of the new clam meetings for midweek has been one of the several main factors making me develop a repulsion for the jw.org religion.. okay, the watchtower study is fairly mickey mouse these days too, but the midweek meetings are truly awful and contribute to me feeling physically and emotionally ill, which i documented in my first post on here.. i'm quite a well-educated person and my job involves a lot of linguistic skill, thinking, communication, analysis, research, interpretation and presentation.

  the clam workbook is patronising and like something even school kids would tire of.. after a long day at work, i don't like the idea of dragging myself off to a midweek meeting in the cold dark nights let alone any other time of the year, but it'd be far better if it was for more solid spiritual food.

  somehow the meetings i grew up with as a child were more interesting.

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  Redpilltwice, I agree!

  I said to my wife that purely out of curiosity, I would love to sit through one of these meetings! It would surely confirm that we did the right thing by leaving!
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  You will soon be reinstated as one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

  by googleTTATT in

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  2. beliefs

  my dad told me this today..

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  Why do you want to be reinstated?
  
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  "Isn't it disgusting?", a sister said to me in service today

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "sorry, what's disgusting?

  ", i replied.

  "that thing we've just called on", the sister said in response.

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  "Isnt it disgusting! The judgemental, bigoted, hateful self-righteous pratt of a witness"

  But after all, ToMo3 did help to make such attitudes acceptable to witnesses!

  Was that person at the door wearing Tight Pants by any chance??
  
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  Spiritual food from the org on the same level as the Bible?

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello to you all again.. i just told my father:"be carefull that you do not put the so called spiritual food at the same level, or on the same pedestal, as the bible.

  it is clear to me that they are not.

  " to me, at the moment, this is self evident.

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  Hmmm...Amazingly clear now for all of us isn't it!

  But when we were fully in, we all put the "spiritual food" provided from the society on the SAME level as the bible! In fact, often, the societies words would come BEFORE the bible!

  But, its not a cult of course!
  
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  Observations From an Ex-Elder Part 3 - Searching for the Lost Sheep

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  "what man among you with 100 sheep, on losing one of them, will not leave the 99 behind in the wilderness and go after the lost one until he finds it?

  " - luke 15:4. disclaimer: by posting the following observations i am not complaining.

  i am happy to be left alone.

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  Yep, I understand what you mean doubtful!

  No matter what you ever did for the society, congregation or individuals, you are seeing that it was all CONDITIONAL on you being an active witness.

  It matters not about the parables Jesus gave, if the culture the GB has created and fostered overrides that.

  I can just see witnesses saying something like "why bring Jesus into this discussion?!"