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  Another manipulation of scripture in Baptism talk at the 2017 RC

  by NikL in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been looking over the talk outlines for the 201t convention and i came across this in the baptism talk.

  go on the offensive against paralyzing fear (7 min.

  )[read 1 peter 3:6, and focus on the expression “continue doing goodand do not give in to fear”].

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  stuckinarut2

  How have they made that stretch like that? Amazing...
  
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  Please tell me: what is a relationship with the "person" Jehovah like?

  by Maryo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone out there know of any jws that have talked about what their personal relationship with jehovah was like?

  for example, hearing his voice, a certain feeling?

  an intellectual understanding?

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  stuckinarut2

  Usually speaking with imaginary people results in people requiring psychological treatment in a facility....
  
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  Southern California USA Congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses On High Alert

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  circuit overseers, elders, ministerial servants, pioneers and rank & file are stressed out over an ex-jw (kevin) who has visited nearly 20 congregations (orange county) and has high-jacked the opening prayers and done some effective witnessing before he is escorted to the back door.

  and everything is caught on video!.

  kevin is also visiting numerous jw cart locations from the los angeles area to orange county and giving a most effective wiitness at each location and they're all on video.

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  stuckinarut2

  Activity like this just reinforces the stereotype that all who leave "the truth" are "mentally diseased"

  It enhances their persecution complexes too.
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  Just ordered the book Crisis of Conscience

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello there.. i just ordered the book coc, and will son recieve it.

  does anyone have anything you want to mention about the book - perhaps some things you stumbled upon that might help me understand something more?

  or maybe you have any thoughts you want to share regarding the book?

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  You will be impressed with his dignity and poise. Also his well presented points.

  My recommendation is take good care of the book! It is rare....

  Enjoy!
  
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  If you had the means to kill a terrorist before he detonated would you ?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i mean blow their fucking brains out..

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  stuckinarut2

  Ask "god" that question.
  
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  Did you ever have a discussion with an apostate that helped your journey out.

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there seems to be a number of different ways that apostates try to get jehovah's witnesses realise they do not have the truth, ranging from subtle comments to aggressive attacks.

  do you have any that looking back helped you finally leave.

  some of the methods include:.

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  stuckinarut2

  As a "good witness" I would never give even the slightest credibility to anything said by one who had left the org, especially one who displayed the cliché "apostate" tendencies.

  The best result comes from a casually dropped, calmly spoken, BRIEF, sentence.....that encourages the mind to dwell on something.

  One lady who had left simply said a sentence to me once that was similar to the famous Aldous Huxley quote: "Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored"

  That stuck with me.....
  
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  The org and going beyond what is written

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello there.. my father just claimed that the good thing about being a witness was how they just let the bible interpret itself.

  now i know the irony in this statement, but i dont know what to show him that he just cant discard with some ignorant excuse.

  any ideas?

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  The bible records Jesus as condemning the religious leaders of his day for "making the word of God invalid because of their traditions" (Mark 7:13)

  The Society / JW are the very epitome of that!

  They have "gone beyond the things written" IN SO MANY WAYS
  
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  Uninvited...again...

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so a week or so ago we received an invitation for a jw friend's wedding anniversary party in the mail.it was addressed to 'the andersen family' (and not just mrs. andersen & baby andersen) which was pleasant of course, but not a huge surprise given the type of person who said friend is.. however, i already prepared myself to be uninvited after all.

  some time ago, there was a congregation farewell party/get-together.to my surprise, i was invited too!

  an elder specifically came over to my house to tell me.then some weeks later, he visited again, being terribly sorry but the invitation was revoked as the congregation got concerned over my possible presence.. with that debacle in mind, i wasn't surprised to receive a message from my friend 'hey are you at home?

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  Wow!

  Sorry to hear.

  This just proves how rampant gossip and slanderous talk is amongst witnesses!

  They will just revel in the opportunity to speak in a derogatory way about any who no longer attend meetings!

  Oh, but this isn't a cult of course.....
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  BBC interview about 1975 - never heard this before..

  by defender of truth in

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  2. beliefs

  for any lurkers who don't believe the watchtower taught that the world would end in 1975... rare jehovah's witnesses 1968 interview "armageddon and 1975" london watchtower rep speaks to bbc.

  http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=npmt-ml-m-g. --------.

  but where will this system of things be by that time?

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  stuckinarut2

  Great thread!

  Thanks for bumping.

  It is simply mind blowing to see how the society is attempting to white wash history with the 2017 convention video!

  HOW can they possibly think they can get away with such crafty manipulation??
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  Is Collateral damage acceptable?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we know that the teaching that witnesses adhere to is that the "universal issue of sovereignty" is the battle between jehovah and satan.. this belief means that the almighty is happy to sit back and allow the world to go to pieces in order to prove his point..... so does that mean all the collateral damage and deaths are all ok?

  should we be tolerant of god sitting back while children are killed by extremists?.

  or does this prove that god isn't really there?.

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  stuckinarut2

  We know that the teaching that witnesses adhere to is that the "universal issue of sovereignty" is the battle between Jehovah and Satan.

  This belief means that the Almighty is happy to sit back and allow the world to go to pieces in order to prove his point....

  So does that mean all the collateral damage and deaths are all ok? Should we be tolerant of God sitting back while children are killed by extremists?

  Or does this prove that god isn't really there?