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  Help Finding Poster's Challenge

  by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho in

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  hey guys,.

  i've been trying hard to locate a comment that was posted no longer than a few weeks ago (if that) by a poster providing a challenge for witnesses to find one scripture that states that we are still saved/have hope if we are outside of this "new covenant" that wt claims is for the 144,000 only.

  the thread was to do with ways we can wake up a loved one and this particular poster (i can't remember who) gave a step-by-step guide to helping witnesses waking up using their own bible and doctrine.

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  stuckinarut2

  If you commented on that thread at the time, go to the page off your account that shows "comments posted" , and see if you can narrow it down.

  Hope that helps?
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  Bethel Lurkers-A woman's Heartfelt phonecall regarding the organisations inhumane shunning policy!

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope bethel lurkers at warwick listen to the rational viewpoint of this australian woman in the recording below.

  she virtually pleads with an australian branch member as to the reasons why shunning is inhumane and how unfair it is that individuals are being held captive within the watchtower organisation.

  they can't simply leave officially without the threat of being shunned by friends and family members.. typically, the branch member responds in a robotic like manner, sticking rigidly to watchtower policy.. https://youtu.be/sc_t60ax5k8.

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  One thing that did stand out, was the smugness and arrogance of the pious brother who took the call!

  The self-righteousness was dripping off his smooth words....

  Anyone know who it was?

  He said he was once "a school teacher" in the call. Anyone from Aust recognise the voice?
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  My Book With Bible Stories - 91 stories of murder and rape to be used as bedtime stories for your little children

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  "no honey, daddy doesn't like this book.

  do you have a nice book we can read?.

  as far as i know my wife and i agree this book would be off-limits.

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  Perhaps when reading those stories, ask children the question that the society always encouraged us to do when reading the bible: "what does this account teach us about Jehovah?"

  By doing that, we can help children to see that Jehovah loves violence, rape, murder, wars, killing and burning animals, slavery etc.....

  Not the sort of person I deem to be a "good associate"!
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  Trouble in paradise!

  by Confusedalot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just for fun, some thoughts about the paradise teaching:.

  will all the carnivores be transformed anatomically?

  if a lion is transformed into a herbivore would it still be a lion?

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  stuckinarut2

  Oh I love this thread topic!

  Great comments from everyone.

  So on the topic of musical instruments? If stringed instruments are made, will they use animal products to make the strings? (Catgut) Does that mean we will kill animals for our use??

  On the topic of waste treatment, I can tell you that after working at Bethel and seeing the infrastructure required to treat the waste from just the 400 people at the Australia bethel, there is a lot involved!

  Ah, unless of course, all these issues will be magically taken care of by a giant sky daddy.....
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  Let's talk about Blood again....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i know we have all talked about this topic before, but for some new ones on the forum, or to refresh ourselves, i wanted to start this thread.. the society likes to go on about the sacredness of blood, and how it should not be transfused etc.. they liken it to a symbol of life itself.

  something that should be respected and therefore not transfused.. but, what is more important: real life, or a symbol of life?.

  an illustration came to mind.. if we give a bunch of flowers to a loved one as a symbol of our love for them, are those flowers more important than the love itself?

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  Great replies!!
  

  Keep them coming
  
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  Philosophical implications of Genetic 1:26 and the personality of the Judeo-Christian God.

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while visiting a still in friend last week we had an interesting discussion on narcissism.

  he made a very interesting comment that got me thinking about the above.

  we were discussing the nature of celebrity and fame and he mentioned that he would find it very difficult to cope with constant adulation and praise.

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  Sorry Venus, but what you propose goes against the content of the bible itself and its claims to be God's channel of communication.

  Also, Christian faiths maintain that the bible is the textbook of god.

  So by ignoring the messages of the bible, and its description of God, then we are left to conclude that the bible is purely the fallible word of man?
  
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  Let's talk about Blood again....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i know we have all talked about this topic before, but for some new ones on the forum, or to refresh ourselves, i wanted to start this thread.. the society likes to go on about the sacredness of blood, and how it should not be transfused etc.. they liken it to a symbol of life itself.

  something that should be respected and therefore not transfused.. but, what is more important: real life, or a symbol of life?.

  an illustration came to mind.. if we give a bunch of flowers to a loved one as a symbol of our love for them, are those flowers more important than the love itself?

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  stuckinarut2

  I know we have all talked about this topic before, but for some new ones on the forum, or to refresh ourselves, I wanted to start this thread.

  The Society likes to go on about the Sacredness of Blood, and how it should not be transfused etc.

  They liken it to a symbol of life itself. Something that should be respected and therefore not transfused.

  BUT, what is more important: REAL life, or a Symbol of life?
  

  An illustration came to mind.

  If we give a bunch of flowers to a loved one as a symbol of our love for them, are those flowers more important than the LOVE itself? Is it not better to actually demonstrate our love by our conduct? Simply giving flowers doesn't make up for displaying real love to that one.

  So too with taking in blood. If the REAL life is at risk of being lost, and blood can be used to save that REAL life, is that not the right thing to do? Saying that "blood is a symbol of life, and therefore should be respected and not transfused" is a cop-out, because here we have a REAL life in front of us that can be actually saved!

  Thoughts?
  
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  Philosophical implications of Genetic 1:26 and the personality of the Judeo-Christian God.

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while visiting a still in friend last week we had an interesting discussion on narcissism.

  he made a very interesting comment that got me thinking about the above.

  we were discussing the nature of celebrity and fame and he mentioned that he would find it very difficult to cope with constant adulation and praise.

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  stuckinarut2

  It also has to be asked of believers, if a human STOPS giving God praise, what is the eventual predicted outcome for that human?

  Is it not destruction? Yes, those who do not give God praise, will be destroyed by God right??

  So, that implies that an insecure being, who constantly demands praise in a narcissistic manner, is also a bully who will kill all who fail to render him such praise?
  
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  Philosophical implications of Genetic 1:26 and the personality of the Judeo-Christian God.

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while visiting a still in friend last week we had an interesting discussion on narcissism.

  he made a very interesting comment that got me thinking about the above.

  we were discussing the nature of celebrity and fame and he mentioned that he would find it very difficult to cope with constant adulation and praise.

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  stuckinarut2

  Great reasoning Doubtful1799.

  If we take the bible as it is claimed to be - Gods letter of communication to humans, then it CLEARLY shows that Jehovah / Yaweh / God not only enjoys, but DEMANDS constant worship!

  In fact, as Revelation shows, the 24 Elders give him "praise day and night", and bow before him, singing "You are worthy to receive the praise etc..."

  So, that DOES seem to indicate that God has either created, or allowed beings to exist for the main reason to give him praise constantly.

  IF a human demanded constant praise, we would rightly question that one's mental state. We would indeed class him as a narcissist.

  This is CLEARLY outlined in the Bible - God's own letter (as worshippers claim it to be)
  
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  Do You Think Jehovah's Witnesses Are Typically Ignorant People?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i think most witnesses are simple minded.many are ignorant.

  there are a lot of basically "good people "in the religion but i believe many are kind of dumb, including many elders.

  do you agree with my thoughts??

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  stuckinarut2

  Ignorant? Stupid? Yes.

  Anyone who is so convinced of "the Truth", yet has not ever looked outside of their bubble of "truth" is wilfully choosing to remain ignorant.

  AND, JW's have an arrogance as well. They are so PROUD of being the ONLY one's with "the truth".

  In contrast, a genuinely smart person recognises that WE DO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING, and that we can learn much from doing extensive research.