Now that last one is great Alfred!
Spot on in fact!
david splane explains newest understanding" of 'this generation" adding a 3rd group.... .
Now that last one is great Alfred!
Spot on in fact!
well , not really.. our hall recently had a secret collection for our head elder who is almost on the verge of becoming homeless.
i guess he lost some cleaning contracts because his clients were just sick of his no shows because of his pioneer work.
there is always something more important to do than earn a living.. this is the same assholes he is always shaming people to not doing enough.
If it was just an ordinary (NON APPOINTED) person, they would be counselled by Elders for "not counting the cost, or being foolish with their decisions"!
BUT somehow because he must be a well liked APPOINTED man, they take up a collection??
I got counselled severely many years back when I arranged a secret collection for a young teenager's family. He was diagnosed with a serious form of cancer, and required expensive treatments that they struggled to afford.
I anonymously took a card and envelope around to all, and offered the opportunity to donate. It was not an official congregation initiative (because we KNOW that NO money ever goes OUT from the cong to the actual members)
I was told it was "not appropriate. and was presumptuous" to do this, and that "the family is not an exemplary family"!
Fast-forward now 7 years, he is doing well, his dad is an Elder. They don't speak with me, and I'm out of the cult.
i have lived in sedona arizona for over five years.
we own the largest wine tour company here and take out more people to the vineyards in this area then anyone less.
so my new years present to anyone (governing body members excluded) here that reads this thread is 2 free wine tours if you visit sedona.
That is a very kind offer Keith!
it's a fear-based religion, at its core.
jws fear many things, but what or who do they fear the most?
let's find out.... 5) satan.
Using one's own brain....that is too dangerous.
this assembly hall in denmark was designed and built by the watchtower bible and track society before drones and google earth were around.
the governing body did not count on this being exposed from the arial view.
according to the 1993 year book on denmark assembly hall.
Thank you Phizzy. That bugged me too!
Track: something you walk or drive on
Tract: a small leaflet or pamphlet
david splane explains newest understanding" of 'this generation" adding a 3rd group.... .
They re ran this old thing?
i was just lying here thinking about mind control and thought it'd write a list just to see how much the wts does try to control every aspect of people's lives.
some of the things i've come up with are:.
xmas,.
Yes to all of the above.
And to add to Fink's comment above, it basically means to "think in agreement" with whatever the "present truth" (opinions) are of the GB at that moment in time...
ok so im new here~ hey-yo!.
i found this site cause i've been looking around at experiences of people leaving 'the truth' as i've been wanting to leave for some time now.
it's interesting as y'know i'd never seen it from the other side as its apostate literature and all that jazz lol.
Welcome!
Remember that the only power the org has over you is that which you allow.
So, don't play by their rules. You don't need to DA. Simply stop attending if you don't want to.
Then, live a happy and successful life!
last week i celebrated my birthday.
accepted well wishes from people near and far.
had been happily accepting wishes from people since i quit the cult.. as a jw, (brainwashed ) belief that birthdays are evil was the stupidest belief i had in all my life.. when in, i had a hard time to explain to people that i don’t celebrate birthdays.
Happy Birthday!
Did anyone have their heads chopped off at your party?
As witnesses, we were told that ONLY bad things like that happen at Bday parties!
anyone on here an ex accounts servant?
i’d be interested in a projection of what percentage of contributions come from elderly jw’s.
i.e, money that will be diminishing over next 5 or 10 years as these ones pass on.. i estimate that in one of my previous congs 50% of the contribution totals of approximately £400 each month were being made by the over 70’s demographic.. within the other 50% were pioneers and low paid workers who put in regular but small amounts.. i guess when the accountants ring the alarm bells you start cutting the biggest costs; full time servants, buildings, printed literature.
Yes, I was an accounts servant for YEARS!
It was indeed true in my congs, that the majority of funds came from the elderly. (I know that it is all anonymous, but as accounts servant, you get a feel for the patterns of donations, and have an eye on the boxes most of the time)
Also, it was NOT those who had a good income stream that donated much! It honestly came from those with very little means! (As a witness, I found that in line with Jesus Widows Mite illustration, and thought it nice. NOW I see just how warped that is!)
Also, we were in a reasonably affluent area. Yet the monthly donations were pitiful! I even raised it with a CO once as I was concerned that this may be an indication that Jehovah wasn't blessing us as much! He said it was a common thing in our district!
Then the money grab thing from Bethel happened, where the Society "requested" all the funds in each cong bank account be sent to them, and we could keep just $5000 (how NICE of them!) Our elders told me to IGNORE that request, and they kept over $15000! I raised it and said that they were going against "theocratic direction", and they came up with excuse after excuse to keep the funds! Contrary to what Bethel told each cong!