it struck me today how the lyrics to kingdom song 81 "the life of a pioneer" sound almost like a slave song from a plantation or something.
what's also sad is, if you read, you'll notice that they sound not only like slaves, but slaves that are admittedly tired and worn out yet grateful to serve their governing body overseers master to prove their devotion to him.. very sad indeed..
at the start of the day, with the sun yet to rise,.
Great post PE!
Yes, the constant need to "ENDURE" proves the martyrdom-like mindset that JWs have!
It is so appalling that they don't see it!
Life is not something to be "enjoyed", but rather "endured"!
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5680338216943616/endure-enjoy
its been awhile since i've commented but i come by and read your posts about once a week.
so why do i need a pep talk ?
after almost 2 years into my fade these bastards won't give it a rest constant hang ups on my answering machine and today for the first time in about 6 months they come to my apartment complex but thankfully couldn't get in they did keep buzzing me so they were here looking for me.
Keep your Dignity, Poise and Grace.
What I mean is, IF they actually confront you, be so very mild and calm.
Remember "LESS is MORE". By this I mean, that the LESS you say, the MORE effective you will be.
State this line calmly "Please respect appropriate boundaries. Have a nice day" - and walk away.
Say no more. If they try and push for more, just repeat that same mild line again.
Also, remember the wise advice many have shared on this forum "The best revenge is to live a happy and successful life"
And "the only power they have over you is that which you allow"
made the mistake of opening the front door today...i was expecting someone to service our central heating...oh dear, it was a sister instead :(.
she tells me jehovah misses me.
it seems god only sees me if i go to the meetings.
Wow! Great thread.
Poor Jehovah... he misses you, and cant bring himself to tell you PERSONALLY.?
Some old woman needs to go to you to tell you?
Smack my head....
"both read the bible day & night, but thou read black where i read white.".
- william blake.
Great quote doubtfull1799!
Thanks for sharing!
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They can CLAIM anything they want. They can STATE anything they want. BUT, it doesn't matter if it contravenes the laws of the country.
I am going to call the Australian privacy commissioner today and share this information.
... and this time it was mine.. mrs. eden decided to part ways and leave home, and so our 25 year long partnership is now dissolving.
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just another colateral damage in a long list of colateral damages from being raised in the "truth".
Speechless. So sorry for you both.
Sending love and support....
i hate the rule about if your mate cheats on you, and you have sex with them, you are not free to remarry because the sex means you forgave them and keeps you stuck with them!
i personally disagree and think it’s so controlling that they think they can dictate what goes on behind closed doors between two consenting, legally married married people.
and that they think they have the right to label what other people’s sex means.
Ah yes...and it takes three men to tell the "aggrieved party" whether they can be free or not....
i am thinking that this could be an interesting topic.
most of us never had a chance to go to college, many of us were involved in various service industries like cleaning and such, and we have had some limitations placed on us.
so i thought it might be interested to see what has worked for people, what hasn't, what the progression has been, where people went wrong and where they got it right.
Great thread Dubstepped!
Yes, the missed opportunities is a big issue for many of us. What COULD we have been if higher education wasn't condemned?? What if....
I had a similar path as you. Because of "putting the kingdom and theocratic things first", I didn't go past high school.
I would have LOVED to go into marketing or advertising!
I would have LOVED to have become an architect - designing houses and buildings!
Instead, I cleaned windows, did basic sales jobs etc.
OK, so I have done ok out of it to be honest. I have had the gift of being able to speak with people, and provide good customer service. I started a business 15 years back that has done well enough for us to live adequately. So I am not bemoaning my lot in life. BUT - rather than being in control and pursuing a career that I REALLY wanted, I had to settle for one that "pays the bills"
hey, i would like to share my experience, it is kind of long but i really appreciate whoever reads.
last year i was a devout pioneer sister.
well, i am naturally an imperfect 20 year old women.
Oh wow...That is so appalling.
In addition to already offered wise advice, I can just say "The only power they have over you is that which you allow"
So do not be drawn into the stupid games the Elders try and play. If you and your boyfriend are comfortable with your relationship, then there is no need to allow anyone else to pry into it!
Be happy, confident and keep your dignity.
And as others have said, don't try and wake him up by dumping huge facts on him. Just slowly ask questions about things and let him be the "spiritual man" and research things...then slowly show him the things you have found....
But I will also say one thing : Are you prepared to envision your life without him IF he doesn't wake up? You have your whole life ahead of you - don't get tied into the organization and have to live a lie....it will kill you.
2018-04-11-e-boespeaker's monitorhttps://we.tl/em7bxi5o4oatlantis!.
Good to see that the Society is focussing on the BIG issues!
