Posts by stuckinarut2

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JW's are slaves- but not in a good way

by joey jojo in

i was reading about the american slave trade again recently.

as anyone who has read anything about the subject knows, it makes for very uncomfortable reading.

every time i read the history, i'm left with a sense of outrage and seething anger at the pure inhumanity and injustice of what life must have been like for those people.

stuckinarut2

And they do like the term "the Rod of discipline"....

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Do you miss that initial "high" ??

by stuckinarut2 in

do you remember the first time you found out "the truth about the truth"?.

yes, it was confronting, shocking and life altering.

yes it was hard to deal with.. but, along with that, many have said that they experienced a sense of thrill, euphoria, or joy when realising the facts about the religion that held us captive mentally and physically for so long.. it was liberating to learn some of the controversial teachings etc.

stuckinarut2

Wonderful replies!

Thank you all.

I guess my thread title may seem insensitive to the fact that many of us didn't experience a "high" in a good way. I apologise for that.

I was trying to convey the idea of that initial wave of emotions and feelings that came with realising that we were not crazy. Realising the release from guilt and obligation to the cult.

But yes, I acknowledge that it wasn't always a happy or pleasant thing. Maybe I used the word "high" wrongly.

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JW's are slaves- but not in a good way

by joey jojo in

i was reading about the american slave trade again recently.

as anyone who has read anything about the subject knows, it makes for very uncomfortable reading.

every time i read the history, i'm left with a sense of outrage and seething anger at the pure inhumanity and injustice of what life must have been like for those people.

stuckinarut2

What makes it even worse, is that JWs have been conditioned to actually think it is a GOOD thing to be a "slave" to the "truth"!

Just as they are proud of being a "sheep"!

Amazing how they don't see the problems with that...

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Do you miss that initial "high" ??

by stuckinarut2 in

do you remember the first time you found out "the truth about the truth"?.

yes, it was confronting, shocking and life altering.

yes it was hard to deal with.. but, along with that, many have said that they experienced a sense of thrill, euphoria, or joy when realising the facts about the religion that held us captive mentally and physically for so long.. it was liberating to learn some of the controversial teachings etc.

stuckinarut2

Do you remember the first time you found out "the truth about the Truth"?

Yes, it was CONFRONTING, SHOCKING and LIFE ALTERING. Yes it was hard to deal with.

But, along with that, many have said that they experienced a sense of thrill, euphoria, or joy when realising the facts about the religion that held us captive mentally and physically for so long.

It was LIBERATING to learn some of the controversial teachings etc. It was amazing to let go of the FOG (Fear Obligation Guilt) that held us in bondage.

Now when we say things like "oh the UN stuff" or "the pyramid teaching" or the "sexism and slavery of the bible", many of us just say it mildly.

But remember when we couldn't get our heads around it? Remember when we felt gut-punched? Remember when we felt the JOY of saying to ourselves "this organisation holds NO authority over me!" ??

Ever wish you could ride that journey again?

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Cancer in Animals

by Normalfulla in

we were taught sickness and death is a result of the sin inherited from adam and eve, so why do animals get cancer?

they are supposedly still as big j intended, so therefore cancer is a creation by the big fella himself?.

just an exercise for one's who believe in the whole bible story thing.. (not me)... any others anomalies you can think of ?

stuckinarut2

Great thread!

Love it!

Ah, well, when "gay-ness" is such an issue in the animal world, then cancer is the least of their issues! haha

Isnt it amazing: The animal kingdom is quite comfortable with their sexuality, so why are repressed humans having such a hard time coming to terms with this? Could "religion" have something to do with it? hmmm?

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Song: The Life Of A Pioneer

by pale.emperor in

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friends

it struck me today how the lyrics to kingdom song 81 "the life of a pioneer" sound almost like a slave song from a plantation or something.

what's also sad is, if you read, you'll notice that they sound not only like slaves, but slaves that are admittedly tired and worn out yet grateful to serve their governing body overseers master to prove their devotion to him.. very sad indeed..

at the start of the day, with the sun yet to rise,.

stuckinarut2

Great post PE!
Yes, the constant need to "ENDURE" proves the martyrdom-like mindset that JWs have!
It is so appalling that they don't see it!

Life is not something to be "enjoyed", but rather "endured"!

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5680338216943616/endure-enjoy

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Need some encouragemant

by LogansRun in

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friends

its been awhile since i've commented but i come by and read your posts about once a week.

so why do i need a pep talk ?

after almost 2 years into my fade these bastards won't give it a rest constant hang ups on my answering machine and today for the first time in about 6 months they come to my apartment complex but thankfully couldn't get in they did keep buzzing me so they were here looking for me.

stuckinarut2

Keep your Dignity, Poise and Grace.

What I mean is, IF they actually confront you, be so very mild and calm.

Remember "LESS is MORE". By this I mean, that the LESS you say, the MORE effective you will be.

State this line calmly "Please respect appropriate boundaries. Have a nice day" - and walk away.

Say no more. If they try and push for more, just repeat that same mild line again.

Also, remember the wise advice many have shared on this forum "The best revenge is to live a happy and successful life"

And "the only power they have over you is that which you allow"

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Jehovah Misses Me

by Phoebe in

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friends

made the mistake of opening the front door today...i was expecting someone to service our central heating...oh dear, it was a sister instead :(.

she tells me jehovah misses me.

it seems god only sees me if i go to the meetings.

stuckinarut2

Wow! Great thread.

Poor Jehovah... he misses you, and cant bring himself to tell you PERSONALLY.?

Some old woman needs to go to you to tell you?

Smack my head....

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For those who still think the Bible is useful for arriving at any conclusions about life or anything else!

by doubtfull1799 in

"both read the bible day & night, but thou read black where i read white.".

- william blake.

stuckinarut2

Great quote doubtfull1799!

Thanks for sharing!

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They've given themselves a out for refusing to give you your data if you ask for it

by purrpurr in

from the jw.org global data page.

"upon receipt of your written request, after you provide sufficient evidence of your identity and enough information to permit us to identify your personal data, the applicable data controller will fairly consider granting the request by balancing the interests of the individual in gaining access to data or correcting or deleting data against the legitimate interests of the organization, including whether granting the request would endanger the organization’s right to religious freedom and practice.

we will also notify any third-party recipients of the necessary changes.. please note that your data may not be erased if processing is required by law or if the data may be kept on other legal bases.

stuckinarut2

They can CLAIM anything they want. They can STATE anything they want. BUT, it doesn't matter if it contravenes the laws of the country.

I am going to call the Australian privacy commissioner today and share this information.