we have seen that the society falls back on the line "it is the victims right to approach the authorities" during all the abuse claims.. they use this excuse to try and defend the passive lack of action in failing to report suspected cases of abuse.. a comparison came to mind:.
if we came across a person lying in the street who says they were hit by a car, would we say "it is your absolute right to call the paramedics and police"?.
or would we take the initiative and call those authorities ourselves to help the person?.
Sorry if it seems odd to revive my own thread, but given the fact that the GB has just issued the May 2019 WT dealing with "Child Abuse", I just had to chime in...
How dare they hide behind the line " it is the right of the individual to report if they wish"
If we know of a crime, it should be reported - simple.
friends,.
there is something realy wrong if you have to tell your church members what to report to who when child abuse happens.. g..
Well said Gorby!
If someone knew of a conspiracy to commit MURDER they would go straight to the police - right?
So WHY do JWs have to ask the "elders" or "branch office" what to do when it comes to child abuse??
It is in the same category in my opinion! The murder of those little one's innocence.
this is simply disturbing and infuriating!.
the may 2019 wt has defiantly and arrogantly been released by the gb, and it is full of their disgusting excuses for not complying with authorities!.
(i have seen and read all the articles, but cant work out how to upload a link here - perhaps someone can assist?).
Well said Diogensister!
The Police investigation could indeed be the "Second Witness" that they want!!
Great observation
i have just been informed that there is a 'special letter' to be read at the meetings week of feb 3,2019 in canada.
anybody heard of this!!
just a heads-up!
I'm sorry!
I tried hard to resist - But I cant hold back:
If Stephen Lett reads the letter, it certainly will be "Special".....(Cue Forrest Gump comparison)
so i'm watching john cedars commentary on the annual meeting from this last october, and at one point he shows a clip of garrett loesch talking about the struggles jehovah's witnesses faced decades before in the soviet union.
he claimed that police officers, maybe the kgb, infiltrated congregations which met in secret by studying with jehovah's witnesses, getting baptized, and then working their way up to becoming elders.
ceders jokes that this shows what kind of role holy spirit actually plays within body of elders, but another interpretation came to my mind just now.
Interesting thoughts!
Well, it does smack of paranoia by the GB.
It will also work wonders as it will now result in a very suspicious atmosphere to develop within congregations! And as the old expression goes - "A House divided can not stand!"
Well done GB - You have just caused your own flock to view one another through sideways eyes....
this is simply disturbing and infuriating!.
the may 2019 wt has defiantly and arrogantly been released by the gb, and it is full of their disgusting excuses for not complying with authorities!.
(i have seen and read all the articles, but cant work out how to upload a link here - perhaps someone can assist?).
Thanks R&R!
this post is mainly for our new forum visitors and members.
perhaps even those who are just lurking or visiting here but have not yet signed up.
maybe you are in the initial stages of researching and finding out the earthshattering and life changing information about the religion that you once held dear and called “the truth”.. it can be a very stressful period of time as you realise that your whole foundation has changed and that the people in your life that you call friends or family may not take kindly to the things you have discovered.
Bumped for any new forum members!
the new study edition watchtower is up, and most of it is devoted to child abuse damage control.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-may-2019/.
It should be simple.
If they knew of a suspected MURDERER, they would report it straight to the police - right?
But if they know of a suspected CHILD ABUSE case, they conduct their own internal investigations before deciding what to do??
WTF??
It is GB arrogance and conceit - they are putting their own policies ahead of respecting the laws of the country, and the safety and well being of a victim!
this is simply disturbing and infuriating!.
the may 2019 wt has defiantly and arrogantly been released by the gb, and it is full of their disgusting excuses for not complying with authorities!.
(i have seen and read all the articles, but cant work out how to upload a link here - perhaps someone can assist?).
sorry I tried to post a link - but failed...
this is simply disturbing and infuriating!.
the may 2019 wt has defiantly and arrogantly been released by the gb, and it is full of their disgusting excuses for not complying with authorities!.
(i have seen and read all the articles, but cant work out how to upload a link here - perhaps someone can assist?).
This is simply disturbing and infuriating!
The May 2019 WT has defiantly and arrogantly been released by the GB, and it is full of their disgusting excuses for not complying with authorities!
(I have seen and read all the articles, but cant work out how to upload a link here - perhaps someone can assist?)
They have arrogantly defied the Aust Royal Commission findings and recommendations, and appear to make a distinction between "crimes" and "child abuse"
Please share your observations here too...
