Can someone please post the actual pics of the memorial invitation?
stuckinarut2
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Something different about the memorial invitation
by days of future passed ini found this memorial invitation quite different than the previous ones.
i couldn't find a more recent posting about the invite, so i may be going over old ground.. at first i just looked thru it.
but then on second look, i realized there was more going on than i thought.
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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch
by UnshackleTheChains ini was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).
you can't write this stuff.
right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans š..
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stuckinarut2
Let me tell you, I learned all about alcohol while at bethel!
I never drank before spending 5 years there. (mind you it was also my "youth" years until I was 24, so thats probably normal?)
Many at bethel had home brew kits set up in the tunnels underground, and had secret stashes of drink in their walk in wardrobes...
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The subtle , yet massive change of Matt 5:32 in the "New" New World Translation
by stuckinarut2 inso i noticed this change in the text of the new silver nwt compared to the older nwt at matthew 5:32. old nwt:.
"however, i say to you that everyone divorcing his wife , except on the grounds of fornication makes her a subject for adultery...etc" .
new nwt:.
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stuckinarut2
So I noticed this change in the text of the new silver NWT compared to the older NWT at Matthew 5:32
Old NWT:
"However, I say to you that everyone divorcing his wife , except on the grounds of fornication makes her a subject for adultery...etc"
New NWT:
"However, I say to you that everyone divorcing his wife , except on the grounds of sexual immorality makes her a subject for adultery...etc"
So this got me thinking about how this seemingly subtle change can now lead to JW's having a changed view?
I can just see a JW spouse who finds out their husband has watched "pornography", and comes to the elders with this scripture. According to the "bible" and JW's definition of "immorality", porn is not allowed.
Or what if someone "engages in masturbation" which is considered to be "immorality" in the eyes of JWs?
Technically, this change in the bible wording could allow room for such reasoning?
In the past it could have been said by an accused "Oh I didnt actually commit "fornication", it was just porn or masturbation".
Thoughts?
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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch
by UnshackleTheChains ini was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).
you can't write this stuff.
right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans š..
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stuckinarut2
I was quite hesitant to jump on this at first, as technically he is not doing anything wrong per se.
BUT, then the scriptures at 1 Cor 8 and Romans 14 came to mind:
"If eating meat or anything else causes my brother to stumble, I will not do it...so as to not make my brother stumble" etc
SO, surely he lacked wisdom in choosing to buy so many bottles all at once in such an odd way? He removed them from their individual gift boxes, which may mean they are not a gift for others, and he really seemed to know his product when asked.
So, even though it isnt wrong to buy and consume alcohol, was it the wisest thing for the annointed of Jehovah - christ's brother, to do?
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What to do when running in to a JW you know...How is this for a suggestion ?
by stuckinarut2 inhey all,.
so i have recently seen quite a few jws that were former friends in our community.
i am always polite and say hello - although most will not acknowledge me.
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stuckinarut2
Hey all,
So I have recently seen quite a few JWs that were former friends in our community. I am always polite and say hello - although most will not acknowledge me. That's cool.
But it got me thinking about how I can change the dynamics as I say hi.
Remember, we who have woken up have nothing to be ashamed of or embarrassed about, even though the Society tries to imply that we are all unhappy, or ashamed about "leaving Jehovah's organization"
So how about this "Hi ___. lovely to see you. I just want to let you know that if you ever realize the reasons why we left, or find out the truth about the truth, I want to reassure you that you have a safe place with us. Please feel free to contact us for support or help - as we know how disturbing it can be and how alone you may feel. We are here for you"
If said in a sincere and kind manner, it may leave the door open for a further chat ...
Thoughts?
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And JW's are not allowed to think about sex? O_o
by nowawake14 ini thought this might catch your eye.
especially if you're a man.. they say thinking about sex is wrong!
that's biologically impossible.
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stuckinarut2
Yep, it always amazed me that we were taught that Jehovah created sex and the natural sex drive, but for those of us who were raised as JWs, everything about sex was EVIL and SINFUL, until the night of your wedding?!?!
So a couple of "good" courting / engaged JWs cant even talk about sex for fear of sinning, yet they are supposed to be ok the night after "I Do" is said?
No wonder so many JWs are messed up....how do they even know each other's likes and desires...or in fact their own?
God makes the sex drive, but then says its evil to allow those feelings?
That's like him making us hungry then not allowing us to eat until we sign some contract at one restaurant....
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Howdie!
by Olesatthewheel inevening all.
my first post - born in but faded 15 years ago before that i was pimo for a number of years.. to put it bluntly the whole jw religion/thing is a crock of shit.
i sort of figured this out for myself before i faded but reading posts and comments on this forum confirms this.
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stuckinarut2
Welcome mate!
This is a great place to hang out and share in chats.
It's great to have you here! (even if you are a man u fan...)
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"The little one becomes a thousand" The "ingthering" is speeding up!
by stuckinarut2 inheya all!.
over the last few months i've been doing a lot more support work with people who are waking up and exiting the "truth" .
i'm part of a team that receives on average 10 new emails, messages or contact through various means, from ones who have just awoken to the realisation that they have been in a cult!.
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stuckinarut2
Yup, that's what I meant when I used that expression ironically Vidiot.
Its all of us ex-jws that see the huge ingathering. and how "happyfying" this is!
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Helping your Spouse wake up
by HappyBlessedFree inhas anyone had success in helping your spouse to wake up?
iām thinking of showing my husband jwfacts.
he is starting to do his own research using wikipedia and google.
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stuckinarut2
I managed to help my wife wake up.
The key was to just create and maintain a safe and supportive environment, while very slowly drip feeding small bits of information.
It is so important to not flood someone - as this can often cause a rebound effect as they recoil in defense of the "truth".
Keep introducing fun weekend activities, and slowly break the JW routine...
here is my wife's first post here on the forum after years of slowly helping her to wake up: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5146331746140160/trying-positive
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stuckinarut2
Great thread!
The similarities to the Org are amazing!