Great thread!
if anyone was unfortunate enough to sit through this weeks book study, then this self serving, higher than thou attitude of witnesses was even more noticeable...
"god will destroy everyone except us!"
even when i was dyed-in-the-wool j-dub, i felt the armageddon teaching was one of the most morbid concepts to be hammered into the psyches of jws.
think about it, only jws would survive this catastrophe, which translates to roughly .001 percent of the population would survive while everyone else would die a horrible death.
that includes people who do good things and are good people, but are just not jws.
Great thread!
if anyone was unfortunate enough to sit through this weeks book study, then this self serving, higher than thou attitude of witnesses was even more noticeable...
"god will destroy everyone except us!"
first off - for those lurkers who feel guilty just for being on this site and reading this (even if you don't read any further, as it is your right to choose that course) i want you to know that you're not alone in what you're going through or in what you are feeling.
if you read on, i hope my experience may be of some small help to you.. this may be long, but i'll try to organize it in a way that doesn't make it painful to read.
to start, i feel it is most beneficial if i'm upfront and honest with my goals from posting this, which are (in order of the degree to which they motivated me):.
Thanks so much for your well thought out and insightful thread! Your comments are spot-on.
Welcome!
I relate so much to your circumstances and your experience! I lurked here for years before I had the courage to join up...now I'm almost addicted to the site.
As everyone has said, please feel welcome, and share in the interchange here on the forum.
so the mid week talk from the co is making me feel ill..... he is going on about all the wonderful adjustments in the org and teachings, and just how clear and understandable they are....and saying that these truths make us more convinced that we have the truth!.
and that all these changes are evidence of love for the people in our territory... the truth is now so much clearer and easier to understand..... oh come on!!!!!!!!.
aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!.
So the mid week talk from the CO is making me feel ill....
He is going on about all the wonderful adjustments in the org and teachings, and just how clear and understandable they are....and saying that these truths make us more convinced that we have the truth!
And that all these changes are evidence of love for the people in our territory... The truth is now so much clearer and easier to understand....
oh come on!!!!!!!!
Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
i just got information that there is going to be a short 10 min meeting.
with elders and ms after the first meeting of the week during the co visit.. this is in addition to the usual elders/ms meeting.. it might just be for my congregation, but is this something new?.
i wonder why.. .
Yep...same things here...
They used the line "the governing body would like to tell all inactive that they are missed at the meetings. Please tell all that we 'love' each of them very much"
i wanted to puke....
new guidelines for field service coming this summer.
new publication to be released giving new ways of counting time, conducting studies, group activities, etc..
Welcome back Paul! (Jwfacts)
We have missed your comments here on the forum!
I reckon you are correct...the society is just thinking about numbers of "active witnesses".
A relaxing of counting measures like this just means more could be counted as active!
im sure that many have had an experience where we try and keep little kids "occupied" while on a boring trip, such as a car ride or plane flight.. we come up with "games" like..."lets see how many green cars we can count", or "lets try and see who can sit still for the longest time".
"the winner gets a prize!".
obviously, until they are wise enough to cotton on, all we are doing is keeping them occupied to prevent them asking things like "are we there yet?!".
Im sure that many have had an experience where we try and keep little kids "occupied" while on a boring trip, such as a car ride or plane flight.
We come up with "games" like..."lets see how many green cars we can count", or "lets try and see who can sit still for the longest time"
"the winner gets a prize!"
Obviously, until they are wise enough to cotton on, all we are doing is keeping them occupied to prevent them asking things like "are we there yet?!"
or hearing things like "Im tired...I want to get out...or 'he's on my side of the chair' etc..."
Get the point WT?
WE ARE NOT KIDS!
what if you were a member of the gb and you woke up and realized it's all bs.
what would you do?
i would try to change the org from within..
Keep all names anonymous .... Adds to the fake hold over the masses...just like the wizard of oz....
new guidelines for field service coming this summer.
new publication to be released giving new ways of counting time, conducting studies, group activities, etc..
Oh man!
so that was a fake letter?
Ok, here is what I am gonna do:
I will print it up on an official "governing body" letterhead, and pin it quietly on the notice board!!!
how do you think this will go down?.....
here's my first tee shirt design.
it's something only ex-jws could relate to, yet could also be worn while still in "the truth":.
http://www.cafepress.com.au/thetruth14.
Welcome back Billy!!
missed you on the forum!
i really can't wrap my head around how people can still consider god loving with such atrocious biblical accounts such as, 1 samuel 15, (god ordering the slaughter of amelikite baby's and children) 2nd kings 2, forgot the verses (god sending bears to maul 42 children) and many others.have you ever asked a witness or anyone elsewhat they think about these accounts?
what was their response?
i'd love to ask one, but unfortunately i'm still physically in the cult and i wouldn't want to raise any suspicions.
There is a great YouTube channel called
"messed up bible stories"
that will help put everything in perspective... And have a laugh too!