Also, how about:
So will everyone who doesn't agree with your faith be killed? Even little babies? How do you personally feel about watching babies be killed?
the city in which i work is flooded with those witnessing carts.
today im going to approach one of them and pretend i dont know what they believe.
gonna try and record it if i can.
Also, how about:
So will everyone who doesn't agree with your faith be killed? Even little babies? How do you personally feel about watching babies be killed?
any elder has never asked me that question so far but i want to be prepared to answer that question if any of them ask me that question in the future.
i hope that they will never ask me that question.
any suggestions on how to answer that question would be very much appreciated.
In addition to all the great comments in the thread already, I would add:
"well, Jesus had some fine words to share on this topic. Can you please turn your bibles to Matt 7:15-20. Would you care to read these powerful words please?"
Then say no more. Let your silence, along with "our Lord's" words speak for itself!
most of us have seen the video created by a huge team at bethel in the usa: (i still wonder if any heads rolled over it??!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwkdmja2y_i.
but here is a new version set to a different song..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxdtqg7lqni.
Most of us have seen the video created by a HUGE team at Bethel in the USA: (I still wonder if any heads rolled over it??!! anyone know??)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwKdMjA2Y_I
But here is a new version set to a different song....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxdTqg7lqnI
Enjoy....
this place is great and it helped me.
for anyone i used to interact with, i think about you often.
i just wanted to read and catch up..
Gday from Australia!
my sister got baptized at 17 or 18 years old in 1983. she was ripe for the jw picking as she was shy, quiet, naive and with low self-esteem even though she was tall and beautiful and she attended one of the best high schools in philadelphia.. she wasn't outgoing and she only went out on a couple of dates prior to her baptism.
she worked at a day care center.
she loved children and animals.
Yes, sadly I have seen that in the elders book. A witness can "disassociate by their actions" by doing something the society considers wrong. They are then to be treated as a "disfellowshipped" person with all the scorn and judgement that involves.
It is so inappropriate that an organization has that level of insidious control over the mindset of its members!
hey everyone.
so a few weeks back i getva knock at the door, i could tell they were jw immediately, its always obvious.
i think its just a regular door knock but at 5.30pm i did think it weird.
If they do come back, be polite but take control of the conversation in a dignified but non-committal way.
"Thanks for popping in. Just curious, how did you get my name and details please? (allow for brief response)________OK, thanks.I hope you take care and have a nice day. Good bye"
jws like to think they have found the one true religion.
but like so many other religious people, it's usually the religion they were born into, the only religion they know because it's the first one they found or, at the most, one of two or three (typically the second one after they left their first / born-in faith).. the trouble is, there simply isn't enough time to explore and investigate each and everyone of the many thousands of belief systems, religions and sects around the world.. think of it this way: which is the best neighbourhood to live in where you would be most happy and most successful?
not just in the city or even the country you are in, but the entire world.. how would you ever know?
FANTASTIC post Simon, and great comments Steve2 as well...(and everyone in fact)
Another thing to add is that : Nothing is constant. Things change (evolve) over time, so what was PERCEIVED to be truth once, needs re-evaluating as more information comes to light. Most religions don't do that....
For instance, Christians (and witnesses in this case) will take the accounts in the OT as factual and acceptable behaviour. (eg Lot committing incest with his daughters, or the killing of babies by soldiers etc) But we know now that there is NEVER an acceptable reason for such behaviour!
I challenge a witness to try and tell us otherwise!
for any who may be fading, or trying to break free from the society, or those who fear how things will transpire , please do yourself a favour and watch this video!.
it is long, but worth the investment in time, for it will help in many ways.. its called "coming out" by theramin trees, and for those who "come out" about recognising the truth of the society, it will help.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mj-8ocmtb_8.
Bumped for ones who have not seen these videos as yet.
go to the legal developments menu on jw org.
click on legal developments by region.
you will find several countries listed where the ministry and practice of jws is banned and/or constrained.
Don't you all know??
All that media stuff is just made up "satanic propaganda"!!
i was going to reply to another thread, but thought this might deserve a separate topic.. my observations when i was a still in.. the announcement that jesus christ (the co) is visiting our local kh.. would anyone like to "volunteer" their time, money and accommodation for jesus christ.. all ass lickers of said kh come forward to receive jesus christ.
a concerted effort for all to be out in the ministry that week, along with panicking elders visiting homes of those who have not been at the meetings for at least a week, offering "encouragement" so that the number of attendance is up for the week visit.. the self righteous in the kh who would never speak to you (pioneers included) and look down their noses at you all of a sudden start to speak to you.. during the visit, the elders are on their best behavior, thanking everyone who answers up.
the pioneers are martyring themselves by making cakes and practically washing the feet of the jesus christ.. the attendance does rise, with studies being brought along, to show jesus christ what a good little jw they are.. most indoctrinated jw's practically shoot each other to have a turn on the ministry with jesus christ!.
I have observed an undoubtable fact all my life:
The week of the CO visit (or an assembly or convention or memorial too for that matter) brings out the biggest attendances.
BUT the very next meeting has the LOWEST attendances ever! It is almost as if witnesses are so exhausted from the "special week of activity" that they either get sick or are just too tired to keep it up the following week! (Thought it was supposed to be a week to "spur everyone on to better service??)
Anyone else notice this??